1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:02,280 As was previously said, in order for NASA's 2 00:00:02,280 --> 00:00:04,260 missions to be successful, we partner with 3 00:00:04,260 --> 00:00:06,870 industry and internationals. One of our biggest 4 00:00:06,870 --> 00:00:09,600 partnerships will be shared in the ISS Low Earth 5 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,900 orbit, or LEO and Subcortical Commercialization 6 00:00:12,900 --> 00:00:15,990 panel. I will be moderating showing how NASA and 7 00:00:15,990 --> 00:00:19,100 industry work together to best utilize our assets. 8 00:00:19,830 --> 00:00:22,290 Our first speaker is Jennifer Hammond with Boeing. 9 00:00:23,300 --> 00:00:26,660 Jennifer has been with Boeing for 17 years. She 10 00:00:26,660 --> 00:00:29,060 worked on the space station contract, the ISIS 11 00:00:29,060 --> 00:00:31,760 vehicle integration environments and resources, 12 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,400 also known as Viper, and is currently a mission 13 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,580 evaluation room or manager, where she supports the 14 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:41,090 manager counsel for ISIS daily operations, as well 15 00:00:41,090 --> 00:00:43,790 as leading on orbit anomaly investigations. 16 00:00:44,420 --> 00:00:46,280 Jennifer was also co-author of two papers 17 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,010 addressing interoperability and common standards 18 00:00:49,010 --> 00:00:51,500 for the deep space habitats. Jennifer is a 19 00:00:51,500 --> 00:00:53,960 graduate of the University of Wisconsin Madison, 20 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,240 majoring in engineering, mechanics and 21 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,940 astronautics, and she also holds a master science 22 00:00:58,940 --> 00:01:01,340 degree in engineering management at the University 23 00:01:01,340 --> 00:01:03,500 of Texas at Austin. Welcome, Jennifer. 24 00:01:05,950 --> 00:01:08,650 Hi, everyone, and thanks for having me today. I'm 25 00:01:08,650 --> 00:01:11,800 excited to be here, so we're going to do is 26 00:01:11,850 --> 00:01:15,040 actually have a video to show you and that's going 27 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,520 to walk us through the inside of ISIS. So you're 28 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,040 going to get a little bit of a tour given by me 29 00:01:21,310 --> 00:01:24,200 and you're going to see where the crew lives and 30 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,710 where they work and perform experiments, where 31 00:01:26,710 --> 00:01:30,250 they get ready to do their spacewalks and suit up 32 00:01:30,850 --> 00:01:33,340 and where they exercise. So I think we can cut 33 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,250 straight to the video. And I think you'll find it 34 00:01:36,250 --> 00:01:37,930 really interesting because you'll get an up close 35 00:01:37,930 --> 00:01:39,520 inside look if ISIS today. 36 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,010 Hi, everyone, I'm Jennifer Hammond, I'm a mission 37 00:01:44,010 --> 00:01:46,950 evaluation room manager for Boeing on the 38 00:01:46,950 --> 00:01:49,320 International Space Station program. Today, we're 39 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:53,010 going to go on a fun virtual tour of the inside of 40 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,770 the ISIS. So you'll get to see this amazing 41 00:01:55,770 --> 00:01:57,570 orbiting laboratory up close. 42 00:01:59,580 --> 00:02:01,440 The International Space Station has actually been 43 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,410 in orbit for more than 20 years, thanks to the 44 00:02:04,410 --> 00:02:07,260 hard work of NASA and its partners. About half of 45 00:02:07,260 --> 00:02:10,350 that time in space was dedicated to assembling the 46 00:02:10,350 --> 00:02:14,260 ISIS, which is almost 300 miles above the planet. 47 00:02:14,670 --> 00:02:17,310 It was something humans had never attempted before 48 00:02:17,310 --> 00:02:20,610 on that scale. And to put it in perspective, ISIS 49 00:02:20,610 --> 00:02:23,550 is as long as a football field and the solar 50 00:02:23,550 --> 00:02:27,540 arrays that supply power cover a full acre since 51 00:02:27,540 --> 00:02:31,020 2011 after assembly was declared complete. ISIS 52 00:02:31,290 --> 00:02:34,470 has turned most of its efforts toward utilizing 53 00:02:34,470 --> 00:02:37,050 its unique capabilities. So that has meant the 54 00:02:37,050 --> 00:02:39,570 dedication of researchers on Earth, performing 55 00:02:39,570 --> 00:02:42,170 experiments remotely while astronauts take part in 56 00:02:42,170 --> 00:02:44,550 the work that requires their specialized abilities. 57 00:02:44,910 --> 00:02:46,560 So we'll talk about more about that when our tour 58 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:50,010 reaches the live modules on ISIS. Another thing 59 00:02:50,010 --> 00:02:52,470 you may notice is how modular the space station is. 60 00:02:52,620 --> 00:02:55,880 The interior of ISIS is designed to be changed out 61 00:02:55,890 --> 00:02:57,630 throughout its lifetime. So we would have the 62 00:02:57,630 --> 00:03:00,030 latest technology and would be able to support 63 00:03:00,030 --> 00:03:02,910 whatever research came along. It's important to 64 00:03:02,910 --> 00:03:05,370 note this is not the same ISIS that launched some 65 00:03:05,370 --> 00:03:08,420 20 years ago. It has been upgraded repeatedly just 66 00:03:08,700 --> 00:03:10,920 to stay on the cutting edge of operational and 67 00:03:10,920 --> 00:03:14,130 scientific capabilities in microgravity. You also 68 00:03:14,130 --> 00:03:15,960 see that there is a lot of stuff inside space 69 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,960 station astronauts, pack materials throughout ISIS. 70 00:03:19,170 --> 00:03:21,600 Everything is very carefully tracked on orbit and 71 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,360 by specialists on the ground. So what you've been 72 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:28,590 seeing is a tour of the cupola. That was where 73 00:03:28,590 --> 00:03:30,960 astronauts probably spend most of their time, if 74 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,470 they could find the cupola is a bay window of the 75 00:03:34,470 --> 00:03:38,070 ISS that faces Earth. So it's not the only window 76 00:03:38,070 --> 00:03:40,500 on station, but it is a place where you can feel 77 00:03:40,500 --> 00:03:42,750 surrounded by space without leaving the safety of 78 00:03:42,750 --> 00:03:45,780 station. And also, I think it's a very beautiful 79 00:03:45,990 --> 00:03:48,420 view. You cannot argue how amazing it is to look 80 00:03:48,420 --> 00:03:51,420 down and see Earth. All of the windows actually 81 00:03:51,420 --> 00:03:53,880 have covers that close over them for protection 82 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,040 when they aren't being used. And this helps 83 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,440 prevent scratches and keeps the windows clean. And 84 00:03:59,460 --> 00:04:02,370 you could see robotics work station there that 85 00:04:02,370 --> 00:04:06,640 lets crew operate the robotic arm on ISIS. And 86 00:04:07,260 --> 00:04:09,450 outside you could see the different spacecraft 87 00:04:09,450 --> 00:04:12,300 docked to ISIS when this was filmed, the 88 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,630 spacecraft or the Russian Soyuz capsules, capsules 89 00:04:15,630 --> 00:04:18,810 that the astronauts fly to get to ISIS in the 90 00:04:18,810 --> 00:04:22,470 silver space craft with solar arrays that you 91 00:04:22,470 --> 00:04:24,120 could see in the picture. That was the Cygnus 92 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,940 cargo spacecraft and that delivers hardware spares 93 00:04:27,210 --> 00:04:28,620 and critical supplies. 94 00:04:30,710 --> 00:04:32,840 Nassan, the national partners operate in a very 95 00:04:32,840 --> 00:04:35,980 robust and diverse fleet of cargo and crew 96 00:04:35,990 --> 00:04:39,020 vehicles built by several nations, so the US has 97 00:04:39,020 --> 00:04:41,240 ports for up to eight spacecraft to dock at a time. 98 00:04:41,990 --> 00:04:44,150 And we'll turn around from the cupola and we'll 99 00:04:44,150 --> 00:04:47,210 actually head into station itself. Our first stop 100 00:04:47,210 --> 00:04:50,720 is unity, and this is a node, as we call it, which 101 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,330 is another way to say a module that connects us to 102 00:04:53,330 --> 00:04:56,510 the U.S. and Russian sides of service. 103 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,520 If you're wondering another thing is why it's so 104 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,200 peaceful and quiet or they're filming, this was 105 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,780 actually filmed during a sleep time so it could be 106 00:05:06,780 --> 00:05:08,640 done without disrupting the daily operations of 107 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:13,650 work on ISIS. So we are heading over, as you can 108 00:05:13,650 --> 00:05:17,430 see, to the Russian side and the model that we're 109 00:05:17,430 --> 00:05:19,680 in right now, unity was built in Huntsville, 110 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,380 Alabama. When it was launched. The team had a 111 00:05:22,380 --> 00:05:24,540 strong feeling of accomplishment, that this was 112 00:05:24,540 --> 00:05:27,240 the first piece of the US ISIS segment that was 113 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,820 going up. But also the knowledge came with it that 114 00:05:29,820 --> 00:05:34,110 there was a lot more work to come. So as we head 115 00:05:34,110 --> 00:05:38,460 closer and this is Zoraida, and it was the first 116 00:05:38,460 --> 00:05:41,730 piece launched to begin the ISIS assembly, at 117 00:05:41,730 --> 00:05:44,490 first it provided a guidance navigation system, 118 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,940 power network and a propulsion for the ISIS. But 119 00:05:47,940 --> 00:05:50,910 now it mainly serves as a cargo block for the crew, 120 00:05:51,210 --> 00:05:53,460 as you can see from the storage bags that are all 121 00:05:53,460 --> 00:05:54,060 around. 122 00:05:57,250 --> 00:05:59,200 Russian modules tend to be a little bit narrower 123 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,810 than those on the other side, but it's really not 124 00:06:01,810 --> 00:06:04,510 a problem for the crew since they can just sail 125 00:06:04,510 --> 00:06:08,260 right through in their weightlessness. We'll see 126 00:06:08,260 --> 00:06:10,360 into the docking quarter here of the progress. 127 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,720 Cargo spacecraft progress is one of the Russian 128 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:17,920 made cargo vehicles. So now we're moving back 129 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,280 through Zarya and we'll head into the unity node 130 00:06:21,280 --> 00:06:26,170 again as we make our way through the complex side 131 00:06:26,350 --> 00:06:30,730 that is the US operated side. And this is actually 132 00:06:30,730 --> 00:06:34,480 the same volume as an empty 747 airliner or 133 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:40,810 roughly a six bedroom house. So you can see on the 134 00:06:40,810 --> 00:06:45,310 left there was an entrance that was to our node 135 00:06:45,310 --> 00:06:47,500 three that houses a number of items that will get 136 00:06:47,500 --> 00:06:52,450 to a little bit later on. Our rights was the Quest 137 00:06:52,450 --> 00:06:54,970 airlock, and this is where astronauts get ready to 138 00:06:54,970 --> 00:06:57,430 go do their extracurricular activities outside of 139 00:06:57,430 --> 00:06:59,950 space station. And we'll get to go back in that 140 00:06:59,950 --> 00:07:04,950 area a little bit later as well as we head up head. 141 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,240 This is the Destiny Laboratory. 142 00:07:11,090 --> 00:07:13,160 And this is our UNprovided model, and that's one 143 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,740 of our specialty areas for research, you can see a 144 00:07:15,740 --> 00:07:18,290 couple of robotics workstations here that include 145 00:07:18,290 --> 00:07:21,320 monitors for a number of different views. Now, the 146 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,770 station's robotic arm is fifty five feet in length 147 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,710 and it is often used to move cargo spacecraft into 148 00:07:27,710 --> 00:07:30,110 their place and also equipment around on the 149 00:07:30,110 --> 00:07:33,170 outside of ISIS. Sometimes it even moves crew 150 00:07:33,170 --> 00:07:35,870 members or spacewalkers outside to their 151 00:07:35,870 --> 00:07:38,600 respective work sites. So it does look a little 152 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,030 bit crowded, but it's not actually crowded when 153 00:07:41,030 --> 00:07:44,030 you get up there because astronauts can just kind 154 00:07:44,030 --> 00:07:46,100 of float around each other and use the entire 155 00:07:46,100 --> 00:07:49,460 space to work in and walk past each other. So 156 00:07:49,460 --> 00:07:52,610 there's no real up and down they get to use the 157 00:07:52,610 --> 00:07:54,830 entire space that you see. 158 00:08:00,500 --> 00:08:03,260 So now we're heading into the harmony module, 159 00:08:03,260 --> 00:08:06,080 which is No. Two. So the first thing you see here 160 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,870 are going to be sleeping quarters. Each one is 161 00:08:08,870 --> 00:08:10,910 kind of like a mini compartment for astronauts 162 00:08:10,910 --> 00:08:13,070 where they can sleep and they can relax. That can 163 00:08:13,070 --> 00:08:15,020 actually have communications with their family 164 00:08:15,020 --> 00:08:19,660 members at home. And you'll see some workbenches. 165 00:08:19,670 --> 00:08:22,250 This might be in their stowed positions and 166 00:08:22,250 --> 00:08:24,230 probably a laptop. There's going to be a lot of 167 00:08:24,230 --> 00:08:26,750 laptops that you'll notice on this tour. They play 168 00:08:26,750 --> 00:08:29,560 a big role in the ISO system and how we operate, 169 00:08:30,020 --> 00:08:32,480 and they're all connected to our larger network 170 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:34,400 and use for many different tasks. 171 00:08:37,230 --> 00:08:40,410 Now we're going to be turning left and heading 172 00:08:40,410 --> 00:08:44,040 into the Japanese lab module called Kibo, which is 173 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:47,700 for hope, and even though these models are made in 174 00:08:47,700 --> 00:08:49,530 different countries, the work that is done in them 175 00:08:49,530 --> 00:08:53,040 is executed by all nations of the ISIS. And 176 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,260 they're not divided into nationalities necessarily, 177 00:08:55,260 --> 00:08:58,770 but they're assigned space by what capabilities 178 00:08:58,770 --> 00:09:00,420 are needed for each of the research that's 179 00:09:00,420 --> 00:09:04,080 performed in there. You can see the fact there's 180 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:07,680 an equipment airlock that's for experiments. It's 181 00:09:07,680 --> 00:09:09,840 not big enough for astronauts to use, but it is 182 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:13,470 equipped to load experiments. And CubeSat, which 183 00:09:13,470 --> 00:09:16,950 are small coffee cup sized satellites that can be 184 00:09:16,950 --> 00:09:20,190 placed in this from inside station, and they close 185 00:09:20,190 --> 00:09:22,290 it up and then goes on an external pallet that 186 00:09:22,290 --> 00:09:27,000 actually extends outside of ISIS. And once outside, 187 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,730 these CubeSat can then be picked up by the robotic 188 00:09:29,730 --> 00:09:33,230 arm and actually launched into orbit on their own. 189 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,880 And that's just another use of our robotic 190 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:39,420 capability that we have on ISIS. We're getting a 191 00:09:39,420 --> 00:09:42,390 little closer to it here, the john is actually a 192 00:09:42,390 --> 00:09:46,050 very large margin. There's quite a bit of space 193 00:09:46,350 --> 00:09:49,020 and a number of experiments that we perform in 194 00:09:49,020 --> 00:09:52,380 this one of our larger, more spacious modules. 195 00:09:56,020 --> 00:09:59,320 So once we head back outside of the gym, we're 196 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:00,520 going to turn around. 197 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,330 We're going to head back into harmony where we 198 00:10:05,330 --> 00:10:09,830 came from or node two, and we're going to head to 199 00:10:09,830 --> 00:10:12,380 another one of the modules that's attached to Node 200 00:10:12,380 --> 00:10:13,010 two. 201 00:10:20,910 --> 00:10:23,370 Jim is pretty clean, which is really nice. You 202 00:10:23,370 --> 00:10:25,050 don't see a lot of the cables that you see in some 203 00:10:25,050 --> 00:10:27,510 of the areas, but that's just based on how the 204 00:10:27,510 --> 00:10:29,940 experience in the racks are set up, where the 205 00:10:29,940 --> 00:10:33,120 laptops are placed, and then you can see that 206 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,250 there's area for storage as well. Those are kind 207 00:10:35,250 --> 00:10:38,250 of those bags that you see on the bottom of what 208 00:10:38,250 --> 00:10:39,660 we would consider the bottom. 209 00:10:43,740 --> 00:10:47,610 So we'll head back through this hatch into node 210 00:10:47,610 --> 00:10:48,090 two. 211 00:10:58,670 --> 00:11:00,680 As we kind of cross the hatch through here, one of 212 00:11:00,680 --> 00:11:04,340 the things to keep in mind is it's rare that they 213 00:11:04,340 --> 00:11:07,250 actually close off these segments and there those 214 00:11:07,250 --> 00:11:11,330 hatches are pretty much open all the time. Unless 215 00:11:11,330 --> 00:11:14,660 we need to do some kind of check or specific 216 00:11:14,660 --> 00:11:16,880 experiment in the module, then the astronauts 217 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,120 would actually close the hatch and close off that 218 00:11:20,390 --> 00:11:23,630 module. It would have its own air supply, sort of. 219 00:11:25,580 --> 00:11:28,310 We don't do that very often. So mainly astronauts 220 00:11:28,310 --> 00:11:30,500 can kind of cruise around from the module and have 221 00:11:30,500 --> 00:11:33,260 a lot of space. You getting a really good idea of 222 00:11:33,260 --> 00:11:34,880 just how large it is? 223 00:11:39,370 --> 00:11:41,260 So now we are. 224 00:11:45,140 --> 00:11:46,400 In the. 225 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:53,200 Columbus module, so this is the European lab 226 00:11:53,230 --> 00:11:53,830 module. 227 00:11:57,730 --> 00:12:00,460 Again, you know, you can see the laptops there, 228 00:12:00,460 --> 00:12:02,230 you can see that there's a storage bag. This is 229 00:12:02,230 --> 00:12:03,640 another place where we have a number of 230 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:10,270 experiments taking place. And it's it seems a 231 00:12:10,270 --> 00:12:12,040 little confusing. Maybe when you're seeing this 232 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,680 the first time, you might think that the 233 00:12:14,680 --> 00:12:17,260 astronauts get up there and are confused on where 234 00:12:17,260 --> 00:12:18,910 they go, but they spend a lot of their time 235 00:12:18,910 --> 00:12:21,400 training on the ground and walking through our 236 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,490 mockups so that they know which direction to head, 237 00:12:24,490 --> 00:12:27,280 even though they don't necessarily have a relative 238 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:31,320 up and a relative down. So we're going to turn 239 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:35,600 around and head back out to the node two again, 240 00:12:35,940 --> 00:12:40,460 and we should be heading to the Destiny Lab. So 241 00:12:40,460 --> 00:12:43,940 here we're just getting another view of all the 242 00:12:43,940 --> 00:12:46,820 wide spectrum of capabilities we have and as far 243 00:12:46,820 --> 00:12:49,700 as specific research that can happen and the space 244 00:12:49,700 --> 00:12:52,640 we have up there for that, a systems themselves 245 00:12:52,910 --> 00:12:55,160 like life support systems and water and air 246 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,370 recycling, those undergo months and months of use 247 00:12:58,370 --> 00:13:02,330 on ISIS before they're actually trusted enough to 248 00:13:02,330 --> 00:13:04,190 go into what we would call a deep space 249 00:13:04,190 --> 00:13:07,910 exploration spacecraft. And we call these systems 250 00:13:07,910 --> 00:13:11,420 tech demos. And we do have a number of these on 251 00:13:11,420 --> 00:13:14,150 orbit and, you know, running to get runtime so we 252 00:13:14,150 --> 00:13:17,570 can see how they operate in space. So now we're 253 00:13:17,570 --> 00:13:22,130 heading back. Now we're getting to know two again 254 00:13:22,670 --> 00:13:24,020 through passing through. 255 00:13:26,250 --> 00:13:30,320 You'll see that it's clear coming up on the left, 256 00:13:30,330 --> 00:13:33,360 you can see one of the glove boxes that we have. 257 00:13:34,500 --> 00:13:36,660 We run experiments and their crew actually has 258 00:13:36,660 --> 00:13:40,680 gloves that are supplied with the container and 259 00:13:40,680 --> 00:13:43,860 that keeps them safe from different materials and 260 00:13:43,860 --> 00:13:46,160 research that they're doing in that box. 261 00:13:49,100 --> 00:13:51,020 We're going to continue on here on the left also. 262 00:13:51,050 --> 00:13:53,990 Those are bungees those are just used to keep 263 00:13:53,990 --> 00:13:55,880 things in place. So you have to remember that 264 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,490 there's no gravity here for the crew. And they 265 00:13:58,490 --> 00:14:02,120 need sometimes they need access, tools and things 266 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:03,590 that they don't want to float away because you can 267 00:14:03,590 --> 00:14:05,470 turn around and also you don't know where it went. 268 00:14:05,780 --> 00:14:08,480 So they use those bungees to keep things in place. 269 00:14:10,370 --> 00:14:14,980 So we are headed back through node one. 270 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:20,570 And it gets a little bit dark here, but I think it 271 00:14:20,570 --> 00:14:24,410 will lighten up for you and hopefully we're going 272 00:14:24,410 --> 00:14:25,780 to head to the airlock. 273 00:14:27,870 --> 00:14:30,420 You can see on the left you're getting a glimpse 274 00:14:30,420 --> 00:14:35,550 of the EVA suits. That's the space suit that the 275 00:14:35,550 --> 00:14:38,510 crew members wear when they do their spacewalks. 276 00:14:38,790 --> 00:14:42,630 So in order to safely exit the SS and perform 277 00:14:42,630 --> 00:14:47,160 maintenance externally, they don these big white 278 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:50,580 suits that we see. And those are their little life 279 00:14:50,580 --> 00:14:52,830 suits that keeps them alive when they're outside. 280 00:14:53,550 --> 00:14:56,400 The airlock is a very small space. What's an even 281 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,640 smaller space is beyond this. And that hatch that 282 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,730 has all that storage and materials, all that is 283 00:15:02,730 --> 00:15:05,250 pulled out and crew members get their suits on. 284 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:07,650 They go through that hatch and they close the 285 00:15:07,650 --> 00:15:10,470 hatches, they depressurize and they're able to 286 00:15:10,470 --> 00:15:12,510 actually go through another door that leads them 287 00:15:13,140 --> 00:15:15,330 to the external side of station where they can 288 00:15:15,330 --> 00:15:16,970 perform more work on. 289 00:15:20,340 --> 00:15:23,640 So this is where we're getting to see the exercise 290 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:27,720 equipment located on the other side of where we 291 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,420 were just were the crew walking alongside. 292 00:15:30,630 --> 00:15:33,060 Astronauts spend a lot of time here and it's at 293 00:15:33,060 --> 00:15:35,880 least a couple hours a day as best I can really 294 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:40,080 take a toll on bone and muscles and your your mass 295 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:41,670 and what it does to your body. They want to make 296 00:15:41,670 --> 00:15:44,640 sure to constantly exercise. We don't get the same 297 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,310 kind of support that the the body needs when it's 298 00:15:47,310 --> 00:15:49,290 on Earth. So we constantly need to make sure that 299 00:15:49,290 --> 00:15:54,080 we're. Growing and their muscles and making sure 300 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:56,240 they're maintaining their health once they're on 301 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:59,420 orbit, the crews, like I mentioned, they do this 302 00:15:59,420 --> 00:16:01,790 at least a couple of hours a day and they work out 303 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:06,410 quite a bit. Um, this now that's their view from 304 00:16:06,410 --> 00:16:09,470 one of the exercise pieces of equipment. And we're 305 00:16:09,470 --> 00:16:12,350 back in the cupola so you can see that beautiful 306 00:16:12,350 --> 00:16:16,910 view of Earth as they're exercising. Thank you for 307 00:16:16,910 --> 00:16:19,460 letting us show you the inside of ISIS today. It's 308 00:16:19,460 --> 00:16:21,320 been my pleasure to be able to share this with you 309 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,540 and walk you through a little bit. I hope that it 310 00:16:23,540 --> 00:16:25,880 was eye opening and a fun and also learning 311 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:27,820 experience for you all today. Thank you. 312 00:16:41,390 --> 00:16:43,430 Thanks, Jennifer, for that great tour of the 313 00:16:43,430 --> 00:16:46,550 International Space Station. Our next speaker is 314 00:16:46,550 --> 00:16:49,850 Ken Shields with ISIS National Labs and his vice 315 00:16:49,850 --> 00:16:52,220 president and chief operating officer for the 316 00:16:52,220 --> 00:16:54,680 Center for the Advancement of Science in space or 317 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:58,670 cases, the managers of the ISIS national lab. He 318 00:16:58,670 --> 00:17:01,460 first joined cases in 2012 and during his tenure 319 00:17:01,460 --> 00:17:04,100 directed the flight operations department, served 320 00:17:04,100 --> 00:17:07,100 as the NASA liaison and led the cases STEM 321 00:17:07,100 --> 00:17:10,010 Education Department in twenty seventeen and was 322 00:17:10,010 --> 00:17:12,620 awarded NASA's Outstanding Public Leadership Medal 323 00:17:12,830 --> 00:17:14,780 and has starred in various boards and advisory 324 00:17:14,780 --> 00:17:17,690 committees. In his current role, Can oversees all 325 00:17:17,690 --> 00:17:20,150 aspects of the organization's business operations. 326 00:17:20,690 --> 00:17:22,580 As his team seeks to advance our nation's 327 00:17:22,580 --> 00:17:25,250 leadership and commercial, they pursue 328 00:17:25,250 --> 00:17:28,640 groundbreaking R&D, not us on Earth, and leverage 329 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:30,650 the International Space Station to inspire the 330 00:17:30,650 --> 00:17:35,000 next generation. Welcome congeals. Thank you, 331 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:38,030 Susie, and I'd like to first start off by thanking 332 00:17:38,030 --> 00:17:40,460 the Spaceports summit organizers for giving us an 333 00:17:40,460 --> 00:17:43,700 opportunity to share some updates and a little bit 334 00:17:43,700 --> 00:17:45,350 of background on what we're doing in cases in the 335 00:17:45,350 --> 00:17:48,410 national lab and what the future might bring. So 336 00:17:48,410 --> 00:17:50,510 thank you. I'd like to get in our presentation 337 00:17:50,510 --> 00:17:53,090 today, first next slide, tell you a little bit 338 00:17:53,090 --> 00:17:56,600 about what case this is. So we are a non-profit, 339 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:59,600 non-governmental organization headquartered here 340 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,960 in Florida. We've been managing the ISIS National 341 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:06,100 Laboratory in partnership with NASA since 2011. 342 00:18:07,310 --> 00:18:10,790 Over that time, we've undergone a different 343 00:18:10,790 --> 00:18:14,720 process, changes evolutions all for the betterment 344 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,480 and improvement of providing access, enabling 345 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,780 access for non NASA researchers and not NASA 346 00:18:21,290 --> 00:18:24,610 organizations and even NASA government agencies. 347 00:18:25,550 --> 00:18:28,310 We're all about fostering an environment where we 348 00:18:28,310 --> 00:18:31,280 can enable and support some groundbreaking 349 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,050 fundamental science. And we've got some great 350 00:18:33,050 --> 00:18:35,000 examples that we'll speak to later on from 351 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:38,870 government agencies. As an example, we also are 352 00:18:38,870 --> 00:18:40,820 heavily focused on applied research and 353 00:18:40,820 --> 00:18:44,510 development and new technologies that are going to 354 00:18:45,290 --> 00:18:48,920 drive the US as a continued leader in developing 355 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:52,310 this in space economy. Very, very important 356 00:18:52,310 --> 00:18:55,310 priority for us right now is generating demand for 357 00:18:55,310 --> 00:18:57,380 in space ventures. And you'll hear about that 358 00:18:57,380 --> 00:19:00,200 later in the presentation. Last, certainly not 359 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,960 least, STEM education, workforce development, 360 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,780 preparing, preparing our future engineers and 361 00:19:05,780 --> 00:19:08,780 future explorers is also a very, very important 362 00:19:09,380 --> 00:19:13,880 part of our mission. Next slide, please. So here's 363 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:17,750 just a little bit of how we do it. So so firstly, 364 00:19:17,750 --> 00:19:19,580 Casey's the Center for the Advancement of Science 365 00:19:19,580 --> 00:19:21,860 in Space. We are a non-profit, non-governmental 366 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:25,730 corporation. The ISS National Lab is not a legal 367 00:19:25,730 --> 00:19:28,520 entity in any way. It is essentially a public 368 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:32,900 service enterprise or a construct that was enacted 369 00:19:32,900 --> 00:19:35,990 by Congress as a way for us to in many ways 370 00:19:35,990 --> 00:19:39,380 democratize or open up access to space and 371 00:19:39,380 --> 00:19:43,880 specifically the ISS for non NASA purposes. And so 372 00:19:44,060 --> 00:19:47,210 through that, we have developed a number of 373 00:19:47,210 --> 00:19:50,420 partnerships and collaborations. We as a company 374 00:19:50,420 --> 00:19:53,360 and organization, we're very small and we're we do 375 00:19:53,360 --> 00:19:57,050 that by purpose. We will leverage external 376 00:19:57,050 --> 00:20:01,090 organizations and external partnerships. NASA 377 00:20:01,110 --> 00:20:03,110 certainly being the foremost, but a lot of other 378 00:20:03,110 --> 00:20:06,410 companies and academia and government agencies to 379 00:20:06,410 --> 00:20:09,590 go and pursue our research priorities and develop 380 00:20:09,590 --> 00:20:15,140 the portfolio and all with the idea to to generate 381 00:20:15,140 --> 00:20:17,930 some impact and some return on investment, frankly, 382 00:20:18,350 --> 00:20:21,410 for the US taxpayers, for for our government, for 383 00:20:21,410 --> 00:20:25,970 for our nation. We also have an important role in 384 00:20:25,970 --> 00:20:29,090 in risk mitigation and in driving towards new 385 00:20:29,090 --> 00:20:32,450 discoveries that just right now don't have a place 386 00:20:32,450 --> 00:20:34,220 in the private sector of the commercial sector 387 00:20:34,220 --> 00:20:36,140 right now because they're not they're not profit 388 00:20:36,140 --> 00:20:40,640 driven. I mentioned before creating demand 389 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,820 generating new initiatives in space is a big, big 390 00:20:43,820 --> 00:20:46,250 focus area for us. And so we see that as market 391 00:20:46,250 --> 00:20:49,400 discovery and demand generation for resources that 392 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,770 we have the benefit of today on the ISS National 393 00:20:51,770 --> 00:20:55,670 Lab, but in particular also for future platforms 394 00:20:55,670 --> 00:20:59,390 that that might not be the case in decades and 395 00:20:59,390 --> 00:21:03,380 years to come. We provide access to the launch 396 00:21:03,380 --> 00:21:06,230 providers vis a VR, our NASA contract, the 397 00:21:06,230 --> 00:21:08,000 commercial resupply. As a matter of fact, we just 398 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:11,030 had Engy 15 that arrived at the ISIS within the 399 00:21:11,030 --> 00:21:13,550 last couple of days with some awesome payloads, 400 00:21:13,550 --> 00:21:16,670 both from National Lab and other other folks as 401 00:21:16,670 --> 00:21:22,940 well. Next slide, please. We we essentially 402 00:21:23,210 --> 00:21:26,270 leverage these three big buckets of applications 403 00:21:26,270 --> 00:21:29,360 on the ISIS and low earth orbit, extreme 404 00:21:29,360 --> 00:21:31,970 conditions. That's referring to what we can do 405 00:21:31,970 --> 00:21:34,900 outside of space station, persistent microgravity, 406 00:21:34,970 --> 00:21:37,760 microgravity, the internal or the shirtsleeve 407 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,220 pressurized volume of the assets and the unique 408 00:21:40,220 --> 00:21:43,400 vantage point, primarily looking back at Earth. 409 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,330 We've got examples of projects spanning every 410 00:21:47,330 --> 00:21:50,030 scientific discipline and from every type of 411 00:21:50,030 --> 00:21:53,690 organization that you could imagine in in every 412 00:21:53,690 --> 00:21:56,240 one of these applications, leveraging each and 413 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,580 every one of these applications in the process. As 414 00:21:58,580 --> 00:22:01,070 you can imagine, over the years, it's really 415 00:22:01,580 --> 00:22:05,030 developed into this awesome, multipurpose, 416 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:09,830 multi-user platform that lends itself to each one 417 00:22:09,830 --> 00:22:12,560 of these applications. And I thought the video 418 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:16,040 that that Jennifer just walked us through did a 419 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,250 wonderful job of really opening our eyes up to 420 00:22:19,970 --> 00:22:21,620 everything that's up there and all the 421 00:22:21,620 --> 00:22:24,200 possibilities that exist. And it was an awesome 422 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,840 Segway into into my talks. So so thank you, 423 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:31,670 Jennifer. Next slide, I mentioned partnerships and 424 00:22:31,670 --> 00:22:34,820 collaborations. We have one. A particular group of 425 00:22:34,820 --> 00:22:37,730 of companies that we that we work with and partner 426 00:22:37,730 --> 00:22:40,160 with, that we call implementation partners, we 427 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,440 work in very, very close collaboration with these 428 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,200 implementation partners. These are companies that 429 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,870 over the years and individuals over the years, 430 00:22:47,870 --> 00:22:50,180 they've developed the unique skill set, that 431 00:22:50,180 --> 00:22:55,070 unique in-house expertise to translate what 432 00:22:55,070 --> 00:22:58,160 researchers, technologists, even educators might 433 00:22:58,310 --> 00:23:00,230 want to do in the on the ground. And they 434 00:23:00,230 --> 00:23:02,960 translate that into the flight environment on the 435 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:06,080 ISIS. They know the engineering component. They 436 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,200 know how to develop crew procedures. They know how 437 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:13,220 to shepherd the researchers through the NASA 438 00:23:13,820 --> 00:23:16,010 payload integration and flight certification 439 00:23:16,010 --> 00:23:19,370 processes. They even offer expert project 440 00:23:19,370 --> 00:23:22,790 scientists who understand the environment of space 441 00:23:22,790 --> 00:23:25,580 and what it might what impacts it might have on an 442 00:23:25,580 --> 00:23:29,390 investigation. Microgravity. What does that do to 443 00:23:29,390 --> 00:23:33,370 fluid's they have some some unique experience in 444 00:23:33,380 --> 00:23:37,100 providing new to space researchers, which is a big 445 00:23:37,100 --> 00:23:40,190 focus area of ours, new to space researchers on 446 00:23:40,190 --> 00:23:44,420 what they should prepare for and expect, and 447 00:23:44,420 --> 00:23:47,480 thereby providing them with a much higher degree 448 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,250 of mission assurance to accomplish what they're 449 00:23:49,250 --> 00:23:51,800 trying to accomplish in the in their investigation. 450 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,710 We have right now about thirty eight of these 451 00:23:54,710 --> 00:23:56,480 companies, a little bit less than 40 of these 452 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,490 companies that we call implementation partners. 453 00:23:59,180 --> 00:24:02,390 We've got 17 commercial facilities now. That's an 454 00:24:02,390 --> 00:24:05,480 important distinction and that we have essentially 455 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,790 public private partnerships that are functioning 456 00:24:07,790 --> 00:24:11,210 today on the ISS, where there are 17 facilities 457 00:24:11,210 --> 00:24:13,460 brought about by the private sector that are 458 00:24:13,460 --> 00:24:16,250 operating on the station right now. It's about 10 459 00:24:16,250 --> 00:24:19,340 companies that operate these 17 facilities. And 460 00:24:19,340 --> 00:24:24,140 it's for me, it's really showing us a pathway to 461 00:24:24,140 --> 00:24:26,750 how we might once again do this on future 462 00:24:26,750 --> 00:24:29,000 platforms. It's not just about the engineering, 463 00:24:29,330 --> 00:24:31,220 but it's learning how to do business. It's the 464 00:24:31,220 --> 00:24:33,710 contracting mechanisms. How do we do be to be in 465 00:24:33,710 --> 00:24:38,210 space on this government subsidized platform? But 466 00:24:38,210 --> 00:24:40,220 how are we going to do it on future platforms that 467 00:24:40,220 --> 00:24:42,740 aren't this next slide, please? 468 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:48,320 And so over the years, we as an organization cases, 469 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,680 we have also developed a unique experience and 470 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:56,210 expertise in-house. We certainly have a unique 471 00:24:56,210 --> 00:25:00,500 approach to selecting the projects that that fit 472 00:25:00,500 --> 00:25:02,780 our strategic priorities and our our strategic 473 00:25:02,780 --> 00:25:07,220 programs, which we have have developed in unison 474 00:25:07,220 --> 00:25:09,890 with external stakeholders. We have advisory 475 00:25:09,890 --> 00:25:12,830 panels that exist outside of cases. Certainly we 476 00:25:12,830 --> 00:25:15,680 leverage NASA expertise over the years in helping 477 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,680 us understand what are some of the endpoints and 478 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,930 strategic research areas that we should be driving 479 00:25:20,930 --> 00:25:23,900 towards. In addition, we've we've got some really 480 00:25:23,900 --> 00:25:26,540 good, unique relationships with I mentioned 481 00:25:26,540 --> 00:25:28,640 implementation partners, but government agency 482 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,040 sponsored research and government agencies that 483 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,770 aren't NASA form a very important part of our 484 00:25:33,770 --> 00:25:36,110 portfolio, especially on the fundamental science 485 00:25:36,110 --> 00:25:39,470 side. We've got some great program apps that we 486 00:25:39,470 --> 00:25:41,540 are in the midst of operating right now with the 487 00:25:41,540 --> 00:25:43,880 National Institutes of Health, National Science 488 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:49,250 Foundation, even Daehlie and DOD and others. Over 489 00:25:49,250 --> 00:25:53,900 the years, we've learned about what what sort of 490 00:25:53,900 --> 00:25:57,500 value in certain research areas or technological 491 00:25:57,500 --> 00:26:00,560 areas is microgravity research really providing 492 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,530 significant value. And that's helping us to evolve 493 00:26:03,530 --> 00:26:06,140 our strategic priorities and direction as we move 494 00:26:06,140 --> 00:26:07,760 into the future. And I'll speak to that a little 495 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:12,500 bit in just a few moments. Next slide. And so here, 496 00:26:12,980 --> 00:26:14,990 this is where we are today. This is essentially 497 00:26:14,990 --> 00:26:17,900 what I refer to as our ISIS national lab ecosystem. 498 00:26:18,980 --> 00:26:21,050 A few highlights that that I'll draw your 499 00:26:21,050 --> 00:26:24,410 attention to. So to date, just about five hundred 500 00:26:24,410 --> 00:26:27,200 payloads since roughly twenty twelve twenty 501 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,990 thirteen was when we actually started sponsoring 502 00:26:29,990 --> 00:26:32,210 ISIS National Labs, sponsored and selected 503 00:26:32,210 --> 00:26:36,110 payloads, the funding that we receive from NASA on 504 00:26:36,110 --> 00:26:39,350 an annual basis. We've really used that as a money 505 00:26:39,350 --> 00:26:43,220 multiplier. It's it's less than half of the total 506 00:26:43,940 --> 00:26:46,850 cost of the research portfolio that we have right 507 00:26:46,850 --> 00:26:49,520 now. Some of that is shared by, as I said, other 508 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,040 government agencies. But a very large percentage 509 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,790 is also carried by our industry, our private 510 00:26:55,790 --> 00:26:59,360 sector investigations, who, by and large, support 511 00:26:59,360 --> 00:27:01,150 their own internal costs, their own payload 512 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,610 development costs and getting their R&D on station. 513 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,370 We provide some infrastructure in this ecosystem 514 00:27:07,370 --> 00:27:10,580 as well. That I think is is will be sorely needed 515 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,400 moving into the future, specifically connecting 516 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,370 users with capital markets. This is kind of a new 517 00:27:16,370 --> 00:27:20,570 area. Traditionally, the domain of space has been 518 00:27:20,810 --> 00:27:23,900 one of of government and government funding. And 519 00:27:23,900 --> 00:27:26,510 now we're seeing everyone seeing this 520 00:27:26,510 --> 00:27:29,300 commercialization push in capital markets and 521 00:27:29,300 --> 00:27:32,120 connection and access to capital markets is really, 522 00:27:32,120 --> 00:27:34,040 really important in all that. And certainly you 523 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,050 can see by those top two numbers, industry and 524 00:27:36,050 --> 00:27:40,430 academia, roughly about even our portfolio is a 525 00:27:40,430 --> 00:27:42,440 little bit more commercial and industry right now. 526 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,470 But it's it's pretty well split and very, very 527 00:27:45,470 --> 00:27:47,660 diverse as it relates to organizational types and 528 00:27:47,660 --> 00:27:51,320 also disciplines. Next slide, please. So what does 529 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:55,550 the future look like next? So we've developed 530 00:27:55,820 --> 00:27:58,550 these program focus areas, we also refer to them 531 00:27:58,550 --> 00:28:00,740 as lines of business here in the in the ISIS 532 00:28:00,740 --> 00:28:03,500 national lab. One is in space production 533 00:28:03,500 --> 00:28:07,010 application. So what do we mean by that? So we're 534 00:28:07,010 --> 00:28:09,680 trying to drive towards very specific endpoints, 535 00:28:09,950 --> 00:28:13,160 which may may result in in in space business 536 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,580 ventures and space initiatives that are supporting 537 00:28:16,580 --> 00:28:20,660 on a scalable and sustainable basis reasons for 538 00:28:20,660 --> 00:28:23,000 going to space and manufacturing something, 539 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,440 processing something, discovering something. And 540 00:28:26,450 --> 00:28:29,000 we're using the ISIS is a proof of concept 541 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,880 platform, a test kitchen, if you will, to try and 542 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,820 develop these use cases, these these proof of 543 00:28:34,820 --> 00:28:38,030 concept that the ones that work, the ones that do 544 00:28:38,030 --> 00:28:40,550 prove out to have the potential for scalable and 545 00:28:40,550 --> 00:28:43,610 sustainable demand and servicing markets that are 546 00:28:43,610 --> 00:28:47,510 expanding here on Earth are our goal is for those 547 00:28:47,510 --> 00:28:50,720 to then move off of the ISIS onto other platforms, 548 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,240 commercial platforms, where they will develop 549 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,730 their products or their processes or their new 550 00:28:55,730 --> 00:28:59,150 material developments at scale in space production 551 00:28:59,150 --> 00:29:01,370 applications. You're going to hear big things from 552 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,910 both cases, the ISIS National Lab and even NASA 553 00:29:04,910 --> 00:29:07,250 and our partners this year and over the coming 554 00:29:07,250 --> 00:29:10,430 years. Fundamental science don't have to explain 555 00:29:10,430 --> 00:29:12,260 too much about that. I think most of this crowd 556 00:29:12,260 --> 00:29:14,690 understands what fundamental science is. It's a 557 00:29:14,690 --> 00:29:18,170 really, really important part of our portfolio. I 558 00:29:18,170 --> 00:29:20,600 would argue that fundamental science provides the 559 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:24,170 mulch. It's the it's the seed from which a lot of 560 00:29:24,170 --> 00:29:27,410 these other more applied initiatives will emerge. 561 00:29:28,310 --> 00:29:32,090 Technology development demonstration also really, 562 00:29:32,090 --> 00:29:35,150 really important. These are four areas that might 563 00:29:35,150 --> 00:29:37,670 not be related to in space production applications, 564 00:29:37,670 --> 00:29:39,830 but we have other industry partners and users and 565 00:29:39,830 --> 00:29:42,680 government agencies that have important technology 566 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,170 development and demonstration that benefit from 567 00:29:45,470 --> 00:29:47,720 exposure to space in microgravity. And we're 568 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,720 supporting those commercial service provider 569 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,300 utilization. I mentioned our implementation 570 00:29:53,300 --> 00:29:56,000 partners earlier. Commercial service providers are 571 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,870 a subset of of that larger body of implementation 572 00:29:59,870 --> 00:30:01,850 partners. These are the companies that have the 573 00:30:01,850 --> 00:30:04,220 assets on station. You're going to hear from one 574 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:08,720 later in today's panel. Really also another 575 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,270 significant part of what we're trying to drive 576 00:30:11,270 --> 00:30:13,430 towards. These are the ones who these are the 577 00:30:13,430 --> 00:30:16,280 companies that are on the leading edge of showing 578 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,440 us how to do business in space. Frankly, in the 579 00:30:18,450 --> 00:30:21,620 ISS, a bit of a business incubator. It's not just 580 00:30:21,620 --> 00:30:23,780 a research platform. It's an inner space business 581 00:30:23,780 --> 00:30:26,360 incubator and a business park where we're we're 582 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:30,470 driving towards some important economic related 583 00:30:31,130 --> 00:30:33,890 impacts. Last but not least, I mentioned workforce 584 00:30:33,890 --> 00:30:36,980 development, system engagement, getting educators 585 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,860 access to resources that they need to inspire and 586 00:30:39,860 --> 00:30:43,460 engage our students so that they do move past 587 00:30:43,460 --> 00:30:46,040 middle school, move into higher education and 588 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,430 pursue STEM careers and stem education so that 589 00:30:49,430 --> 00:30:51,860 they can take the next step, getting us to Mars, 590 00:30:51,860 --> 00:30:54,320 getting us to other places, and improving life on 591 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,690 Earth with some important discoveries on the ISIS 592 00:30:56,690 --> 00:31:00,980 and other future platforms. Next slide. So I 593 00:31:00,980 --> 00:31:04,580 mentioned before, it's the outside of station. 594 00:31:04,580 --> 00:31:09,050 This is a depiction of of the materials and on the 595 00:31:09,050 --> 00:31:12,140 ISIS experiment. This is an external payload 596 00:31:12,770 --> 00:31:16,460 hosting location on the ISIS ideal for sensor 597 00:31:16,460 --> 00:31:20,390 testing, maybe coding, testing, advanced materials. 598 00:31:20,390 --> 00:31:22,610 All of these fit within a couple of different 599 00:31:22,610 --> 00:31:25,520 buckets, I would say technology development, but 600 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,670 also going to play a major and important role for 601 00:31:28,670 --> 00:31:31,250 us in the future for in space production as we 602 00:31:31,250 --> 00:31:33,500 delve into the invention, inventions and 603 00:31:33,500 --> 00:31:36,290 discoveries of new materials. Next slide, please. 604 00:31:37,910 --> 00:31:41,270 Exotic glasses and optical fibers are another area 605 00:31:41,270 --> 00:31:43,400 that that we are diving into. We've got some 606 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,140 discoveries right now with several different 607 00:31:45,140 --> 00:31:47,570 organizations and companies that are looking at 608 00:31:47,570 --> 00:31:50,450 different ways for optical fibre production in 609 00:31:50,450 --> 00:31:54,380 space. Also things like ceramics and other novel 610 00:31:54,380 --> 00:31:57,080 materials that might go into semiconductors. Most 611 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,150 of these are taking advantage of the persistent 612 00:31:59,660 --> 00:32:02,270 environment of microgravity as opposed to the 613 00:32:02,270 --> 00:32:06,140 extreme environments of space itself. Next flight. 614 00:32:07,940 --> 00:32:10,760 Regenerative medicine is an important area for us 615 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:14,870 and our partners as well. I think as most of you 616 00:32:14,870 --> 00:32:17,900 might imagine, stem cells, for instance, develop 617 00:32:17,900 --> 00:32:20,030 very differently. They behave very differently in 618 00:32:20,030 --> 00:32:24,650 space. The formation of 3D aggregates like tissue 619 00:32:24,650 --> 00:32:27,680 development from a 3-D printer, for instance. In 620 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,680 space, we can do a lot of things with persistent 621 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,810 microgravity that we can't here on Earth. And we 622 00:32:32,810 --> 00:32:36,050 can observe phenomenon that we don't see here in 623 00:32:36,050 --> 00:32:38,930 the in the field of gravity. We're applying this 624 00:32:38,930 --> 00:32:42,350 data and the results from from things that could 625 00:32:42,350 --> 00:32:44,900 be for, for instance, stem cell based regenerative 626 00:32:44,900 --> 00:32:48,980 therapies and drug therapies here on Earth. Next 627 00:32:48,980 --> 00:32:53,540 slide, please. Tissue engineering is an important 628 00:32:53,540 --> 00:32:55,400 program that we've been running with the National 629 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,190 Science Foundation, once again, we're we're 630 00:32:58,190 --> 00:33:00,320 leveraging the data and the results that we're 631 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,720 getting from our tissue engineering work on 632 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:07,070 station to apply novel therapeutics here on Earth, 633 00:33:07,340 --> 00:33:12,020 new drug targets, drug designs. This area is ripe 634 00:33:12,020 --> 00:33:15,200 with with opportunities for advancement in 635 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,380 personalized medicine. And even once again, these 636 00:33:18,380 --> 00:33:20,960 stem cell based regenerative medicine therapies 637 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,290 are a big market opportunity for us right now. 638 00:33:23,990 --> 00:33:27,830 Next, like I mentioned, the commercial service 639 00:33:27,830 --> 00:33:31,430 providers in this area. So we we at the national 640 00:33:31,430 --> 00:33:35,630 lab, we've got at our disposal 50 percent of 641 00:33:35,630 --> 00:33:38,060 NASA's available resources on the space station. 642 00:33:38,060 --> 00:33:41,150 So that's 50 percent of the time, 50 percent of 643 00:33:41,180 --> 00:33:44,360 the up mass and down mass, 50 percent of just 644 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,940 about anything that's associated with the US 645 00:33:47,210 --> 00:33:51,050 segment of the ISIS. We have now taken a very 646 00:33:51,170 --> 00:33:54,290 conscious and purposeful effort to dedicate a 647 00:33:54,290 --> 00:33:58,400 portion of our allocation. So a part of our 50 648 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:02,510 percent, if you will, to support the demand 649 00:34:02,510 --> 00:34:04,550 generation efforts, the business development 650 00:34:04,550 --> 00:34:06,830 generation efforts and the business planning of 651 00:34:06,860 --> 00:34:09,500 these companies who have been a very speculative 652 00:34:09,500 --> 00:34:13,280 way have gone out in a very pioneering way, if you 653 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,860 will, to go into space and specifically on the 654 00:34:15,860 --> 00:34:18,080 assets and execute these public private 655 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,560 partnerships and and try and generate not only 656 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,110 business, but also important research that that 657 00:34:24,110 --> 00:34:27,710 they are creating through clients that that they 658 00:34:27,710 --> 00:34:31,640 are developing. I mentioned pioneers. We're 659 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,540 calling this this allocation of the assets, 660 00:34:34,550 --> 00:34:37,580 national labs, resources, the pioneer allocation 661 00:34:37,580 --> 00:34:40,640 it's rolling out right now. These companies will 662 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,790 be will have at their disposal some resources, 663 00:34:43,940 --> 00:34:46,550 namely up mass and crew time that we are 664 00:34:46,550 --> 00:34:49,580 dedicating to their their their business 665 00:34:49,580 --> 00:34:52,610 development efforts, their science, their research 666 00:34:52,850 --> 00:34:56,210 efforts that might not be right down the middle of 667 00:34:56,210 --> 00:34:59,360 the fairway for what we see as strategic research 668 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,240 priorities, but will also be will always be 669 00:35:02,240 --> 00:35:05,870 aligned with the intended use of the assets, which 670 00:35:05,870 --> 00:35:09,620 is for research, science, technology development, 671 00:35:09,620 --> 00:35:14,330 education, not for not R&D or non technology 672 00:35:14,570 --> 00:35:16,850 pursuits or initiatives. That's it's an important 673 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:21,380 distinction there. It's still important, good 674 00:35:21,380 --> 00:35:26,720 quote unquote. Research next slide. So what are 675 00:35:26,720 --> 00:35:29,900 some of the future opportunities that people can 676 00:35:30,170 --> 00:35:33,380 look out for right now? So right now we have real 677 00:35:33,380 --> 00:35:36,800 time. We have a technology development research 678 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,040 announcement that's open the step one concept 679 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,980 summaries are due next week. So if anyone out in 680 00:35:42,980 --> 00:35:44,570 the audience has heard about it, you can go to our 681 00:35:44,570 --> 00:35:48,260 website and go to that page. And if you've got an 682 00:35:48,260 --> 00:35:51,200 idea in mind, submit your concept. We just 683 00:35:51,350 --> 00:35:54,170 yesterday opened up a research announcement in the 684 00:35:54,170 --> 00:35:57,140 area of STEM education. We're looking for 685 00:35:57,350 --> 00:36:00,500 proposals that specifically are aimed at 686 00:36:00,500 --> 00:36:04,280 underrepresented demographics. We're looking for 687 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,680 proposals that will heavily leverage digital 688 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,260 engagement and are also aimed towards higher 689 00:36:09,260 --> 00:36:11,660 education. Once again, we think this is where we 690 00:36:11,660 --> 00:36:14,150 can make a difference in workforce development. So 691 00:36:14,150 --> 00:36:15,710 I would encourage everyone to check that out 692 00:36:15,980 --> 00:36:18,680 coming up very soon. I would say in the next month 693 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,530 or so, you're going to see some in space 694 00:36:21,530 --> 00:36:24,380 production applications, research announcements. I 695 00:36:24,380 --> 00:36:26,090 think we're going to have one rolling out in the 696 00:36:26,090 --> 00:36:29,030 March, April timeframe and then a different focus 697 00:36:29,030 --> 00:36:31,430 area under that same umbrella of research in the 698 00:36:31,430 --> 00:36:35,090 April May timeframe. So lots of opportunities 699 00:36:35,090 --> 00:36:37,940 rolling out this year. And in the coming years, 700 00:36:38,180 --> 00:36:39,830 these will be these national lab research 701 00:36:39,830 --> 00:36:47,180 announcements next slide. So just in closing, lots 702 00:36:47,180 --> 00:36:49,120 of information here where you can follow 703 00:36:49,130 --> 00:36:51,590 activities of cases in the National Laboratory. 704 00:36:52,310 --> 00:36:54,740 Please do that. Also, if you have some ideas, 705 00:36:54,740 --> 00:36:57,530 please submit those. We have areas on our website 706 00:36:57,530 --> 00:37:00,440 where you can submit ideas and stay in touch with 707 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,960 us. We're certainly going to be engaging with a 708 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,930 lot of external stakeholders. We have a user 709 00:37:05,930 --> 00:37:08,960 advisory committee as well as other important 710 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:13,100 information gathering forums. We as the managers 711 00:37:13,100 --> 00:37:14,690 of the National Laboratory, we're always the 712 00:37:14,690 --> 00:37:17,210 stewards and the managers of the resources. The 713 00:37:17,210 --> 00:37:19,340 national lab belongs to all of you. The national 714 00:37:19,340 --> 00:37:24,260 lab belongs to the nation, frankly. And so we take 715 00:37:24,260 --> 00:37:28,220 that responsibility very seriously and we welcome 716 00:37:28,220 --> 00:37:30,590 your inputs. And we appreciate the opportunity to 717 00:37:30,590 --> 00:37:32,120 share just a little bit about what we're doing 718 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,850 today. And we look forward to more discussion and 719 00:37:34,850 --> 00:37:37,070 Q&A later in today's panel. So thank you. 720 00:37:41,310 --> 00:37:45,840 Thank you, Can so a perfect segue from Ken's talk 721 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,030 us to hear from one of the ISIS national lab 722 00:37:48,030 --> 00:37:50,460 partners and commercial service providers, Carol 723 00:37:50,460 --> 00:37:53,640 Craig. Carol is the founder and CEO of Craig 724 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,430 Technologies Aerospace Solutions with government 725 00:37:56,430 --> 00:37:58,830 and commercial customers nationwide and employees 726 00:37:58,830 --> 00:38:02,370 in over 20 states over 10 years. Carol Croute, 727 00:38:02,610 --> 00:38:05,550 Carol Grou, Craig Technologies from one person in 728 00:38:05,550 --> 00:38:07,650 nineteen ninety nine to over four hundred and 729 00:38:07,650 --> 00:38:10,470 fifty. And I spent the last decade focusing on 730 00:38:10,470 --> 00:38:13,050 aerospace and defense with a concentration on 731 00:38:13,050 --> 00:38:15,990 commercial opportunities. In twenty twenty one, 732 00:38:16,020 --> 00:38:17,880 they will be launching the first of one hundred 733 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,190 and twenty satellites supporting their own on 734 00:38:20,190 --> 00:38:24,770 orbit satellite testing platform. Lizy set. Carol 735 00:38:24,770 --> 00:38:26,870 earned a B.A. in computer science from Knox 736 00:38:26,870 --> 00:38:29,750 College B.S., a computer science engineering from 737 00:38:29,750 --> 00:38:32,570 the University of Illinois and marks an electrical 738 00:38:32,570 --> 00:38:34,550 and computer engineering from the University of 739 00:38:34,550 --> 00:38:37,520 Massachusetts at Amherst. Carol is one of the 740 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,490 first women eligible to fly in combat for the U.S. 741 00:38:40,490 --> 00:38:43,820 Navy and the first female aviator to join her P3 742 00:38:44,090 --> 00:38:47,510 Orion squadron. Charles received numerous awards, 743 00:38:47,510 --> 00:38:49,610 including being recognized as an Entrepreneur of 744 00:38:49,610 --> 00:38:52,340 the Year by the Great Minds in STEM and the 745 00:38:52,340 --> 00:38:55,220 Society of Women Engineers. She also received a 746 00:38:55,220 --> 00:38:57,320 special Congressional Recognition Award from 747 00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,660 Congressman Bill Posey for outstanding and 748 00:38:59,660 --> 00:39:02,450 invaluable service to the local community. Welcome, 749 00:39:02,450 --> 00:39:05,510 Carol. Craig. Thank you very much, Suzanne, 750 00:39:05,510 --> 00:39:07,980 appreciate it. And I'm excited to be here today 751 00:39:07,980 --> 00:39:09,900 and I'm excited to share some of the things that 752 00:39:09,900 --> 00:39:12,420 we're going to be doing in the future going 753 00:39:12,420 --> 00:39:15,690 forward. It is perfect that I'm following Can and 754 00:39:15,690 --> 00:39:20,760 the SNL, because our foray into commercial space 755 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,040 is because of the International Space Station and 756 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,290 the programs that we've been able to be a part of 757 00:39:25,500 --> 00:39:28,020 and continue to be a part of going forward. So 758 00:39:29,190 --> 00:39:32,340 next slide. So a little bit about us. We are an 759 00:39:32,340 --> 00:39:34,470 engineering technology manufacturing firm 760 00:39:34,470 --> 00:39:36,690 headquartered here and our manufacturing is in 761 00:39:36,690 --> 00:39:40,620 Cape Canaveral, our electronics division and our 762 00:39:40,830 --> 00:39:43,110 headquarters is here in Merritt Island, Florida. 763 00:39:43,330 --> 00:39:46,230 And we primarily focus on you can kind of see 764 00:39:46,230 --> 00:39:48,180 there on the slide in systems engineering, 765 00:39:48,180 --> 00:39:50,940 multidisciplinary engineering, training and course 766 00:39:50,940 --> 00:39:53,310 for development modeling and simulation, I.T. 767 00:39:53,310 --> 00:39:55,860 support, launch support services. But over the 768 00:39:55,860 --> 00:39:58,470 last few years, we've moved into commercial space. 769 00:39:58,470 --> 00:40:00,720 And again, that all began with the International 770 00:40:00,720 --> 00:40:02,640 Space Station and the opportunities presented to 771 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,490 us at that time. Founded in nineteen ninety nine, 772 00:40:05,670 --> 00:40:08,940 although local, our headquarters are here. We are 773 00:40:08,940 --> 00:40:13,250 in 21 different states. Looks like. So the 774 00:40:13,250 --> 00:40:15,140 International Space Station, and that's what we're 775 00:40:15,140 --> 00:40:17,810 talking about today, is a little commercialization 776 00:40:17,990 --> 00:40:21,050 and as I mentioned in twenty sixteen we began our 777 00:40:21,050 --> 00:40:23,060 first program with the International Space Station. 778 00:40:23,060 --> 00:40:25,880 Dyas SNL. And that was to develop an external 779 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,220 platform that allowed for experimentation in 780 00:40:28,220 --> 00:40:31,040 unpressurized space. Since then, we've done a few 781 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,590 more things, but it was that particular program 782 00:40:33,830 --> 00:40:36,110 that allowed us to become an implementation 783 00:40:36,110 --> 00:40:38,720 partner with the ISIS and now and then also become 784 00:40:38,720 --> 00:40:40,520 a commercial service provider. We actually have 785 00:40:40,700 --> 00:40:42,470 what we call we call facilities. We have two 786 00:40:42,470 --> 00:40:45,530 facilities on the ISIS right now. And the umbrella 787 00:40:45,530 --> 00:40:48,290 agreement I put on there, too, because ISIL has 788 00:40:48,290 --> 00:40:51,350 done such a great job with working with like Ken 789 00:40:51,350 --> 00:40:53,570 said, the smaller companies are really trying to 790 00:40:53,570 --> 00:40:56,630 grow and be a part of the ecosystem and putting 791 00:40:56,630 --> 00:40:58,550 things in place like an umbrella agreement, make 792 00:40:58,550 --> 00:41:01,280 it a lot easier to do business and to get those 793 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,760 programs on the ISIS without too much red tape. 794 00:41:04,770 --> 00:41:06,890 And it doesn't take as long as sometimes it does 795 00:41:06,890 --> 00:41:09,650 when you're doing some of the bigger contracts 796 00:41:10,610 --> 00:41:15,130 next like. So to summarize kind of our commercial 797 00:41:15,130 --> 00:41:17,440 space offerings, we've got three things that we 798 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,360 talk about here in the first, of course, is the 799 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,540 International Space Station and it being a support 800 00:41:22,540 --> 00:41:25,840 provider to the SNL and the two platforms. We have 801 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:27,910 a satellite deployer, which I'll talk a little bit 802 00:41:27,910 --> 00:41:30,520 about in a moment, and then also that external 803 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,380 testing platform. And again, I'll go in a little 804 00:41:32,380 --> 00:41:34,600 more detail than a couple of slides in here that 805 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,760 have the technical specifications on there. But 806 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,770 we'll describe a little further. And then as soon 807 00:41:38,770 --> 00:41:41,470 as you mentioned, we are also focused on we are a 808 00:41:41,500 --> 00:41:44,590 constellation management company. We are throwing 809 00:41:44,590 --> 00:41:47,820 up our our own constellation. And plans are for 810 00:41:47,830 --> 00:41:50,320 one hundred and twenty satellites by the end of 811 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,980 twenty twenty five. And we do everything from the 812 00:41:53,980 --> 00:41:56,800 beginning, integration of technologies all the way 813 00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,800 to the monitoring and the and the data and 814 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,290 supporting from the ground operations perspective. 815 00:42:02,620 --> 00:42:06,550 And in addition to those types of things, we have 816 00:42:06,550 --> 00:42:10,030 been providing flight hardware for NASA and just 817 00:42:10,030 --> 00:42:12,880 about every single space program out there, even 818 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:16,930 on the commercial side since around 2012 and 819 00:42:16,930 --> 00:42:19,150 continue to do so. And that's also what's kind of 820 00:42:19,150 --> 00:42:21,130 helped us move into the commercial space to get 821 00:42:21,130 --> 00:42:23,020 that experience and that subject matter, subject 822 00:42:23,020 --> 00:42:25,150 matter expertise. And you can see right there the 823 00:42:25,150 --> 00:42:26,800 different the four different areas that have 824 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,320 highlighted the launch support services. A lot of 825 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,960 that is through partnerships, including with the 826 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:36,160 ISS, our test platform. We call Craig X, our 827 00:42:36,250 --> 00:42:38,940 latest satellite that we're developing, and least 828 00:42:38,950 --> 00:42:40,600 that and I'll talk a little bit more about that. 829 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,240 And then the deployer Cyclops of that. We used to 830 00:42:43,240 --> 00:42:45,340 deploy those satellites of the International Space 831 00:42:45,340 --> 00:42:50,160 Station next flight. So this is just an example of 832 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,640 all of the products that we've had the opportunity 833 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,370 to build to support our space program as a small 834 00:42:56,370 --> 00:42:58,680 company and we're not as large as we were, we did 835 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,020 grow to that number that Susie mentioned, but 836 00:43:01,020 --> 00:43:03,000 we're not quite that size anymore, but still a 837 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,250 small company compared to a lot of the larger 838 00:43:05,250 --> 00:43:08,460 supporters. We had the opportunity to really do a 839 00:43:08,460 --> 00:43:11,370 lot and participate in the growth, the ecosystem 840 00:43:11,370 --> 00:43:13,320 and on the left there. Again, you see the 841 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:14,760 different products being developed and on the 842 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,490 right or the patents that we have worked on in. 843 00:43:17,540 --> 00:43:20,730 And now because of our work on the International 844 00:43:20,730 --> 00:43:23,370 Space Station and also with NASA at Kennedy Space 845 00:43:23,370 --> 00:43:27,920 Center. Next line. So this is a little bit about 846 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:29,840 our flight test platform, you can kind of see what 847 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,810 it looks like, it goes out on the on the outside 848 00:43:32,810 --> 00:43:35,270 external of the International Space Station. It is 849 00:43:35,270 --> 00:43:39,230 reconfigurable. It's about 10 to 15 u that's 850 00:43:39,230 --> 00:43:42,620 available in there. And it can contain anything 851 00:43:42,620 --> 00:43:45,950 from the electronics antenna. There's an antenna 852 00:43:45,950 --> 00:43:48,230 there on the side that you can see optical 853 00:43:48,230 --> 00:43:51,370 payloads if you want to test the camera materials. 854 00:43:51,380 --> 00:43:53,930 And again, it's reconfigurable. So depending on 855 00:43:53,930 --> 00:43:57,110 the type of customers, we can kind of meet their 856 00:43:57,110 --> 00:43:59,870 needs based on what they're looking for. We did 857 00:43:59,870 --> 00:44:03,890 deploy the the flight test platform in October. It 858 00:44:03,890 --> 00:44:07,130 was set up in October of twenty nineteen when out 859 00:44:07,130 --> 00:44:10,190 on the International Space Station in December of 860 00:44:10,190 --> 00:44:12,500 that year, and then it just recently returned, 861 00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,230 which is the benefit for this particular facility 862 00:44:15,470 --> 00:44:19,040 that we can send it up, it can be out there for a 863 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,230 specific amount of time brought back down and then 864 00:44:21,230 --> 00:44:24,110 more analysis can be done on the impact of the 865 00:44:24,110 --> 00:44:25,970 extreme environment on those different types of 866 00:44:25,970 --> 00:44:28,210 experiments. And some of our customers on there, 867 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:33,740 they range from Cobra, Puma, the the Gulf guys to 868 00:44:34,100 --> 00:44:36,710 Rinka, which is a software defined radio. 869 00:44:36,950 --> 00:44:39,770 Lamborghini tested the materials and we even set 870 00:44:39,770 --> 00:44:42,560 up some materials for an unnamed large launch 871 00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,500 provider in the area. So so there was an 872 00:44:45,500 --> 00:44:47,600 opportunity to really interact with a number of 873 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,310 different customers to get focused on that 874 00:44:49,310 --> 00:44:53,030 research and development. Next time this is 875 00:44:53,030 --> 00:44:55,970 Cyclopes, Cyclopes is our deployer that's up there 876 00:44:55,970 --> 00:45:00,140 on the on the station, and this is a facility that 877 00:45:00,140 --> 00:45:02,870 was built by NASA and has launched, as you can see 878 00:45:02,870 --> 00:45:07,190 there, three satellites to date. And we are now 879 00:45:07,190 --> 00:45:10,010 the maintainers and sustainers of that hardware 880 00:45:10,250 --> 00:45:12,500 and have the opportunity to not only support 881 00:45:12,500 --> 00:45:14,540 government customers, but also commercial 882 00:45:14,540 --> 00:45:17,690 customers and international customers. So this is 883 00:45:17,690 --> 00:45:20,390 akin to Ken's point of enabling the business 884 00:45:20,390 --> 00:45:23,870 community or that ecosystem to grow through the 885 00:45:23,870 --> 00:45:26,270 opportunities that are presented as we're looking 886 00:45:26,270 --> 00:45:28,250 at the business case. And we are obviously this is 887 00:45:28,250 --> 00:45:31,660 how we started our focus on our constellation, the 888 00:45:31,700 --> 00:45:34,100 business case that allows us to find customers who 889 00:45:34,100 --> 00:45:36,080 want to deploy their satellites from the 890 00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,840 International Space Station. This one and the same 891 00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,930 time we set up our projects, there was the step 892 00:45:41,940 --> 00:45:47,030 set for was on that rocket and was deployed using 893 00:45:47,030 --> 00:45:51,500 Cyclopes in January of twenty twenty. Next time, 894 00:45:52,190 --> 00:45:54,170 this is an example of some things that we're 895 00:45:54,170 --> 00:45:57,710 working on, we are developing a CubeSat deployer 896 00:45:57,710 --> 00:46:00,470 which actually utilizes the Cyclopes platform, and 897 00:46:00,470 --> 00:46:02,830 so it's sort of a satellite within a satellite and 898 00:46:02,900 --> 00:46:06,260 deploys these deployer serial deployers in a row 899 00:46:06,260 --> 00:46:08,810 and then they deploy the individual CubeSat from 900 00:46:08,810 --> 00:46:10,940 there. And this was in response to a market 901 00:46:10,940 --> 00:46:12,830 request there. A lot of there's a lot of 902 00:46:12,830 --> 00:46:15,290 opportunity for the microsatellites, hundred 903 00:46:15,290 --> 00:46:18,830 kilogram sized satellites, but there are a lot 904 00:46:18,830 --> 00:46:21,950 also for CubeSat and large numbers of CubeSat. And 905 00:46:21,950 --> 00:46:24,540 so hopefully we be getting that developed and 906 00:46:24,550 --> 00:46:28,490 complete within the next year. Next slide. And 907 00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:30,860 this is just a picture of where the two facilities 908 00:46:30,860 --> 00:46:33,690 are in the lower right hand side is the latest 909 00:46:33,740 --> 00:46:36,630 platform out on the Nannerl rex external platform. 910 00:46:36,830 --> 00:46:39,470 And then also there's the in the left side, kind 911 00:46:39,470 --> 00:46:41,540 of toward the top. You can see the robotic arm, 912 00:46:41,540 --> 00:46:44,600 and that's what we use to deploy the Cyclops into 913 00:46:44,990 --> 00:46:50,320 our satellites. Exline. So all of this has moved 914 00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,780 us into satellite manufacturing, a lot of that 915 00:46:52,780 --> 00:46:54,700 came, like I said, because of the relationship 916 00:46:54,700 --> 00:46:56,830 with the ISF, because of our hardware development 917 00:46:56,830 --> 00:46:58,960 that we've been doing here in our facility in Cape 918 00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,570 Canaveral. And so now we are in the process of 919 00:47:01,570 --> 00:47:03,580 building our own satellites. These satellites are 920 00:47:03,580 --> 00:47:06,250 3-D manufactured satellites, which the benefit 921 00:47:06,250 --> 00:47:08,440 there is that about 40 percent lighter than 922 00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,040 typical aluminum. So you can have more payloads. 923 00:47:11,260 --> 00:47:14,440 And our focus really is as a on orbit testing 924 00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,740 platform so that we can help smaller companies, 925 00:47:17,740 --> 00:47:20,710 growing companies get their emerging technologies 926 00:47:20,710 --> 00:47:24,130 to TRL Level nine to the technology. I can never 927 00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:29,050 say I a level nine faster than and cheaper than if 928 00:47:29,050 --> 00:47:31,090 they had to go a traditional route. So that's why 929 00:47:31,090 --> 00:47:33,430 we say we do that full stack. You harness your 930 00:47:33,430 --> 00:47:35,860 technology, we integrate it with other customers. 931 00:47:36,070 --> 00:47:39,280 We launch. We have the spectrum to to handle 932 00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,530 everything. You don't do anything else. We test 933 00:47:41,550 --> 00:47:45,080 your technology and now you've got a TRL nine like 934 00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:49,360 proven test or technology. And so we're doing that 935 00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,970 with the ISIS. We're then also expanding into 936 00:47:51,970 --> 00:47:54,040 partnerships with the other launch providers. One 937 00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,200 of those is via SpaceX, which is actually right 938 00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:59,380 here in Brevard County. They are a small satellite 939 00:47:59,500 --> 00:48:01,930 rocket launcher as well, and they'll be able to 940 00:48:01,930 --> 00:48:04,990 launch five of our satellites at one time. And 941 00:48:04,990 --> 00:48:07,360 then again, we also support the ground support 942 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,570 services for data. So we're kind of twofold. It's 943 00:48:10,570 --> 00:48:13,090 our go ahead to the next slide. I think it might 944 00:48:13,090 --> 00:48:15,760 have a picture. This is Lizzie sat. Like I said, 945 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:19,430 this is our satellite. We call Lizzie SAT and this 946 00:48:19,430 --> 00:48:22,540 so you can kind of see it's this modular setup so 947 00:48:22,540 --> 00:48:25,150 that you can integrate multiple technologies and 948 00:48:25,150 --> 00:48:27,190 also you can do it iteratively so somebody has a 949 00:48:27,190 --> 00:48:29,560 change in the middle of their technology 950 00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,020 integration. It's OK. It isn't. You have to start 951 00:48:32,020 --> 00:48:34,690 all over. We've got another 12 months. We can make 952 00:48:34,690 --> 00:48:37,450 those changes and and very rapidly integrated into 953 00:48:37,450 --> 00:48:41,230 our our satellite. And so next slide, because the 954 00:48:41,230 --> 00:48:43,420 one I was thinking of, this is our satellite is a 955 00:48:43,420 --> 00:48:45,250 service. So we have satellite service from a 956 00:48:45,250 --> 00:48:47,920 technology perspective, which means we are doing 957 00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:49,990 everything for you. Give us your technology. We 958 00:48:49,990 --> 00:48:52,660 integrate it. You can see multiple satellites. We 959 00:48:52,660 --> 00:48:55,510 have the spectrum for multiple orbits and 960 00:48:55,510 --> 00:48:57,730 inclinations or whatever your needs are. We can 961 00:48:57,730 --> 00:49:00,340 meet it. And then and then we also have satellite 962 00:49:00,340 --> 00:49:02,950 service from a data perspective. So somebody is 963 00:49:02,950 --> 00:49:06,070 looking for whether it's optical imagery or other 964 00:49:06,070 --> 00:49:08,620 type of sensor data in a different location, 965 00:49:08,620 --> 00:49:11,200 specific somewhere could be an international 966 00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:14,140 country. It could be domestic. We can provide that 967 00:49:14,140 --> 00:49:16,360 data as a service, whether it's a subscription 968 00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,120 service or it's implied by the drink and that kind 969 00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:20,920 of thing. So we'll in addition to having our 970 00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,470 customers payloads, we have the full satellite 971 00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:26,470 optics, everything that we will be handling of 972 00:49:26,470 --> 00:49:28,930 data and pulling that down and making that 973 00:49:28,930 --> 00:49:34,040 available to potential customers. Next night. So 974 00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:38,750 that is my my presentation today, and again, just 975 00:49:38,750 --> 00:49:41,990 to drive home that I look back over the last 976 00:49:41,990 --> 00:49:44,420 twenty one twenty two years and we started as a 977 00:49:44,420 --> 00:49:47,090 government services kind of standard contractor. 978 00:49:47,240 --> 00:49:50,510 And we have grown, as we've seen even the space 979 00:49:50,510 --> 00:49:53,090 economy grow. We've seen of our county grow. We've 980 00:49:53,090 --> 00:49:55,880 been able to have the opportunity to do things 981 00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:57,380 that we would never have been able to do, 982 00:49:57,380 --> 00:49:59,990 especially on our own dime. So that's one of the 983 00:49:59,990 --> 00:50:02,540 things, too, that I think is offered by the ISIS, 984 00:50:02,540 --> 00:50:06,680 is that you don't have to have that big funding 985 00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,920 mechanism and take the big jump. But I think you 986 00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:11,630 do have to do the little jump sometime. And that's 987 00:50:11,630 --> 00:50:13,190 why I have that post. Sometimes you just have to 988 00:50:13,190 --> 00:50:15,430 jump and build your wings on the way down. And 989 00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:17,570 it's, again, the ISIS and other commercial 990 00:50:17,570 --> 00:50:20,540 programs that help small companies like us be able 991 00:50:20,540 --> 00:50:23,270 to do these things. So thank you very much for 992 00:50:23,270 --> 00:50:23,600 sharing. 993 00:50:28,150 --> 00:50:31,780 Thanks, Carol. So our last presenter today is John 994 00:50:31,780 --> 00:50:35,230 Quinn, the CEO of Excess Aerospace Jobs, an 995 00:50:35,230 --> 00:50:37,900 electrical engineer, stock trader, license 996 00:50:37,900 --> 00:50:41,380 investment adviser and entrepreneur. John served 997 00:50:41,380 --> 00:50:43,660 for two and a half years in the U.S. Navy in the 998 00:50:43,660 --> 00:50:46,240 silent service on the fast attack and Trident 999 00:50:46,240 --> 00:50:48,940 submarines. He was responsible for the system's 1000 00:50:48,940 --> 00:50:51,220 condition assessment and submarine vibration 1001 00:50:51,220 --> 00:50:53,710 analysis systems that kept the submarine quiet and 1002 00:50:53,710 --> 00:50:57,190 viable. In 2002, he completed his best in 1003 00:50:57,190 --> 00:51:00,320 electrical engineering. John worked in the power 1004 00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,180 industry for twenty one years, working in 1005 00:51:02,180 --> 00:51:05,000 engineering and management Six Sigma and finally 1006 00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:08,300 specializing in cybersecurity power plant controls, 1007 00:51:08,660 --> 00:51:11,510 predictive and prognostics methodology. John 1008 00:51:11,510 --> 00:51:14,570 founded Martin Systems and Technologies Inc. to 1009 00:51:14,570 --> 00:51:17,240 develop submarine technologies you prototype while 1010 00:51:17,240 --> 00:51:20,690 serving in the silent service in twenty fourteen 1011 00:51:20,690 --> 00:51:23,570 Johns of a business drove to develop XOS aerospace 1012 00:51:23,570 --> 00:51:26,210 systems and technologies to enter the commercial 1013 00:51:26,210 --> 00:51:28,430 space race with reusable space vehicle 1014 00:51:28,430 --> 00:51:31,040 technologies. He owns many other businesses, 1015 00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,530 including Jayanti management megawatt control 1016 00:51:33,530 --> 00:51:36,850 systems and linked design and manufacturing. John 1017 00:51:36,850 --> 00:51:38,740 believes the future will be written by today's 1018 00:51:38,740 --> 00:51:42,160 youth, engaging them in the excess space edu 1019 00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:45,040 program to help them see and develop the vision to 1020 00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:48,580 achieve and is excess space build program. We'll 1021 00:51:48,580 --> 00:51:51,160 support the breakthroughs in manufacturing in the 1022 00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:54,370 pristine environment of space. Saving the Earth as 1023 00:51:54,370 --> 00:51:56,740 a place to live instead of a place to contaminate 1024 00:51:56,740 --> 00:51:59,890 as we create products is all about flexible 1025 00:51:59,890 --> 00:52:02,770 reusability. And that is how exposed aerospace is 1026 00:52:02,770 --> 00:52:06,820 making space available. Welcome, John. Wow, that 1027 00:52:06,820 --> 00:52:08,350 was a mouthful. Thank you. 1028 00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,980 All right, well, fantastic, thank you, Susie. So 1029 00:52:22,980 --> 00:52:27,480 exos, aerospace, reusable launch vehicles, you 1030 00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:30,960 know, each one of us, many of us have cars and 1031 00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:32,970 will jump in our car and we'll go to the grocery 1032 00:52:32,970 --> 00:52:34,860 store and we don't throw it out when we get there. 1033 00:52:34,860 --> 00:52:37,920 Right. Because it wouldn't be cost effective. Yet 1034 00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,710 we take multimillion dollar or billion dollar 1035 00:52:40,710 --> 00:52:45,090 rockets in many cases, and we throw them out when 1036 00:52:45,090 --> 00:52:48,060 we get to the destination of space. So what makes 1037 00:52:48,060 --> 00:52:51,900 it different? There are a couple of companies out 1038 00:52:51,900 --> 00:52:53,760 there doing absolutely amazing things and 1039 00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,520 reusability. Obviously, everyone knows SpaceX and 1040 00:52:56,520 --> 00:53:00,780 Blue Origin and they have a slightly different 1041 00:53:00,780 --> 00:53:06,180 mission. I think they are in the business of space 1042 00:53:06,180 --> 00:53:10,500 exploration and exos is in the business of space 1043 00:53:10,500 --> 00:53:14,100 exploitation. And when I say that our primary 1044 00:53:14,100 --> 00:53:17,610 mission is to enable all the brilliant minds and 1045 00:53:17,610 --> 00:53:20,700 all the other fields that surround space, whether 1046 00:53:20,700 --> 00:53:24,030 it be biomedical or manufacturing or education, 1047 00:53:25,740 --> 00:53:30,270 and giving the world a platform where we can do 1048 00:53:30,270 --> 00:53:34,320 the research in space and protect our environment, 1049 00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:38,720 but really taking that next step to leverage space. 1050 00:53:38,730 --> 00:53:41,940 So Exos has been in the business of reusable 1051 00:53:41,940 --> 00:53:45,300 launch vehicles. We are one of four in the world 1052 00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,780 that actually have a license, reusable rocket. 1053 00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,420 There are about 10 companies in the US that 1054 00:53:51,420 --> 00:53:54,180 actually have launch licenses. So puts us into 1055 00:53:54,180 --> 00:53:58,290 kind of a small group. However, we see the biggest 1056 00:53:58,290 --> 00:54:03,000 problem with SpaceX is it's not flexible enough to 1057 00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:06,510 support all the different industries that surround 1058 00:54:06,900 --> 00:54:10,050 a launcher, for example. So how do you make it 1059 00:54:10,050 --> 00:54:14,340 more flexible? You offer reusability and you also 1060 00:54:14,340 --> 00:54:17,010 do air launch. So we're not tied to a ground 1061 00:54:17,010 --> 00:54:20,550 infrastructure anymore. We have a way to do that. 1062 00:54:20,550 --> 00:54:26,120 So next slide, please. So Xolo says former Sergej 1063 00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:28,610 platform, which is just a small suborbital 1064 00:54:28,610 --> 00:54:33,260 sounding rocket, four times we did lose it after 1065 00:54:33,260 --> 00:54:35,660 the fourth flight. But if you see a picture one 1066 00:54:35,660 --> 00:54:38,720 there, we have ignition. Picture two is one of my 1067 00:54:38,720 --> 00:54:40,850 favorite pictures. It's actually my background as 1068 00:54:40,850 --> 00:54:42,650 well, where you're actually looking up the 1069 00:54:42,650 --> 00:54:45,650 tailpipe of the rocket. It's WLOX, ethanol. It's a 1070 00:54:45,650 --> 00:54:49,490 very, very clean fuel and doesn't even leave that 1071 00:54:49,670 --> 00:54:53,330 plume of smoke that we see from pretty much 1072 00:54:53,330 --> 00:54:56,750 everything else in picture three, see the drug 1073 00:54:56,750 --> 00:54:58,700 re-entry. That's how we come back to the earth's 1074 00:54:58,700 --> 00:55:03,380 atmosphere. And then ultimately we deploy a canopy 1075 00:55:03,710 --> 00:55:07,340 that has GPS guidance and flies you directly back 1076 00:55:07,340 --> 00:55:10,360 to the launch site. So you can recover your 1077 00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:18,690 payloads just minutes after. After. It lands so 1078 00:55:18,690 --> 00:55:23,430 the company has a Sergej vehicle right now, we're 1079 00:55:23,430 --> 00:55:25,860 in the process of making a large lightweight 1080 00:55:26,010 --> 00:55:29,550 vehicle under contract for the US Air Force. And 1081 00:55:29,550 --> 00:55:32,310 we are developing and I'm actually calling in from 1082 00:55:32,310 --> 00:55:36,270 Italy tonight, we're actually developing the 1083 00:55:36,270 --> 00:55:41,940 Jaguar Liow launcher in Italy. So the team goes 1084 00:55:41,940 --> 00:55:46,440 back about 20 years with the Jaguar launcher. 1085 00:55:46,710 --> 00:55:49,890 Taking us to orbital. Next slide, please. 1086 00:55:52,140 --> 00:55:55,860 So the next large vehicle is about ninety five 1087 00:55:55,860 --> 00:55:59,130 percent done. We're waiting for the winds at out 1088 00:55:59,130 --> 00:56:02,760 at Spaceport America in New Mexico to mellowed out 1089 00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:06,330 a little bit so that we can go out and fly. We're 1090 00:56:06,330 --> 00:56:09,930 starting to work on the lightweight vehicle under 1091 00:56:09,930 --> 00:56:13,140 a hypersonic as a hypersonic reusable launch 1092 00:56:13,140 --> 00:56:18,480 vehicle for the Air Force and looking forward to 1093 00:56:19,530 --> 00:56:23,790 progressing further as we launch into Liow markets, 1094 00:56:24,390 --> 00:56:28,920 primarily led from Italy for the Liow launcher and 1095 00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:32,280 then in the U.S. for development of the towed 1096 00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:37,820 glider air launch system. Obviously, that little 1097 00:56:37,820 --> 00:56:40,430 map is on the right there as commercial airline 1098 00:56:40,430 --> 00:56:43,100 traffic and there are hundreds and hundreds of 1099 00:56:43,100 --> 00:56:47,240 flights and ground launches create problems for 1100 00:56:47,240 --> 00:56:49,970 commercial airspace. And of course, everyone still 1101 00:56:49,970 --> 00:56:51,800 wants to get on the airplane and fly to a 1102 00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,950 different place. But if we had daily launches from 1103 00:56:54,950 --> 00:56:58,520 our coastal cities, if you look at all those white 1104 00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:01,370 lines there, we would interrupt a lot of air 1105 00:57:01,370 --> 00:57:04,130 traffic. The airlines are already having problems 1106 00:57:04,130 --> 00:57:06,470 with it. So what if we go out over the ocean or 1107 00:57:06,470 --> 00:57:09,350 over the seas and launch from there? And that's 1108 00:57:09,350 --> 00:57:11,780 our approach. So we're taking the best of space X 1109 00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:16,100 with reusability, the best of Virgin Galactic with 1110 00:57:16,100 --> 00:57:19,900 air launch. And putting the two together where 1111 00:57:19,900 --> 00:57:22,540 you've got reusable air launch and instead of 1112 00:57:22,540 --> 00:57:24,400 doing it from an aircraft, we're going to do it 1113 00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:27,730 from a glider so that we don't have people at risk 1114 00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:30,430 because it hasn't been too long since we saw a 1115 00:57:30,430 --> 00:57:33,640 rocket explode on the pad. And I, in good 1116 00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:37,240 conscience, can't put people in something on a 1117 00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:39,550 liquid fueled rocket, particularly ours, that's 1118 00:57:39,550 --> 00:57:43,390 not mandated, granted, both SpaceX and Blue Origin 1119 00:57:43,390 --> 00:57:45,490 or mandated. So they do have all those extra 1120 00:57:45,490 --> 00:57:48,550 safety systems. We also think those costs a lot of 1121 00:57:48,550 --> 00:57:52,570 extra money. And we anticipate that most of what 1122 00:57:52,570 --> 00:57:55,570 goes off Earth, if it's not for research, it's 1123 00:57:55,570 --> 00:57:56,980 heading somewhere, it's probably heading to the 1124 00:57:56,980 --> 00:57:59,980 moon or Mars, and most of it's going to be payload. 1125 00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:03,050 So why do we have to have man rated rockets for 1126 00:58:03,050 --> 00:58:08,420 payload? So next slide, please. So. 1127 00:58:09,370 --> 00:58:12,460 Congratulations to Virgin Orbit, they did a 1128 00:58:12,460 --> 00:58:16,120 successful launch off of Cosmic Girl, absolutely 1129 00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:18,700 phenomenal, their second attempt. That was great, 1130 00:58:19,570 --> 00:58:22,840 as I said, taking reusability. Of course, we land 1131 00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:25,510 a little different. We could have legs. We 1132 00:58:25,510 --> 00:58:28,060 actually have a history of doing vertical takeoff, 1133 00:58:28,060 --> 00:58:32,050 vertical landing, going way back for like twenty 1134 00:58:32,050 --> 00:58:36,700 thirteen, I think was kind of in the. Prior team 1135 00:58:36,700 --> 00:58:39,340 Armadillo Aerospace got really good at it under 1136 00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:44,620 John Carmack. However, the recovery system that we 1137 00:58:44,620 --> 00:58:47,680 use with the Drogon canopy is actually about a 1138 00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:49,540 third, the weight of the fuel we would have to 1139 00:58:49,540 --> 00:58:52,330 carry to space. So it just makes sense at our 1140 00:58:52,330 --> 00:58:57,700 scale to come back that way. And again, so I don't 1141 00:58:57,700 --> 00:59:01,150 have to put a person in harm's way, the glider 1142 00:59:01,150 --> 00:59:03,970 will be remotely piloted, towed about a thousand 1143 00:59:03,970 --> 00:59:07,600 feet behind a much smaller aircraft than we would 1144 00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:10,590 have to have if we were to put it on an airplane. 1145 00:59:11,530 --> 00:59:12,430 And next time. 1146 00:59:14,730 --> 00:59:17,700 So this is the full flight profile for that, where 1147 00:59:17,700 --> 00:59:24,260 a C-130 737 tows a glider up to about thirty eight, 1148 00:59:24,300 --> 00:59:26,880 forty thousand feet, whatever its magic ceiling is. 1149 00:59:27,420 --> 00:59:30,570 And then the glider, which is also rocket 1150 00:59:30,570 --> 00:59:34,440 propelled, takes the next step, puts you into the 1151 00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:36,660 right orbital inclination, gets you at the right 1152 00:59:36,660 --> 00:59:40,110 angle. And actually the rocket releases the glider. 1153 00:59:40,110 --> 00:59:41,790 Since the rocket at this point actually weighs 1154 00:59:41,790 --> 00:59:44,490 more than the glider, the glider flies back to the 1155 00:59:44,490 --> 00:59:49,740 airport. The first stage continues on to orbit and 1156 00:59:49,740 --> 00:59:53,600 then. First stage re-enters the earth's atmosphere, 1157 00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:56,480 just as we did with our Sergej vehicle and is 1158 00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:59,060 captured by a helicopter drop to a barge and 1159 00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:02,780 returns back to a launch site for redeployment 1160 01:00:02,990 --> 01:00:06,230 within about a week or so. Next slide. 1161 01:00:08,410 --> 01:00:14,110 Obviously, space research education has Susie read 1162 01:00:14,110 --> 01:00:18,370 in the intro STEM Education, I'd love to see and 1163 01:00:18,370 --> 01:00:20,410 we worked on this for years and just haven't been 1164 01:00:20,410 --> 01:00:23,170 able to make it happen. But why does our national 1165 01:00:23,170 --> 01:00:28,990 science fair not have a CubeSat competition for 1166 01:00:28,990 --> 01:00:31,990 every school? It would literally take one Sergej 1167 01:00:31,990 --> 01:00:35,770 launch a year to launch all 50 satellites for 1168 01:00:35,770 --> 01:00:39,550 every state in the United States. We just haven't 1169 01:00:39,550 --> 01:00:42,700 been able to make that happen. SpaceX build space 1170 01:00:42,700 --> 01:00:46,120 manufacturing is a phenomenal thing because we can 1171 01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:48,490 do things in space that we can't do on Earth, 1172 01:00:48,820 --> 01:00:51,400 because honestly, the earth is a horrible place to 1173 01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:54,190 make things. We have all sorts of contaminants in 1174 01:00:54,190 --> 01:00:58,630 the air. We'll find, although it's a little harder 1175 01:00:58,630 --> 01:01:01,120 to get there, space is a great place to build 1176 01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:05,680 things. Biomedical and heliophysics. This one 1177 01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:09,580 touches real close to home. Doctors Abair of Mayo 1178 01:01:09,580 --> 01:01:11,590 Clinic and the Center for Applied Space 1179 01:01:11,590 --> 01:01:16,660 Technologies put mesenchymal or MSK stem cells on 1180 01:01:16,660 --> 01:01:19,150 the International Space Station. It was a five 1181 01:01:19,150 --> 01:01:23,320 year program, but they had clinical trials after 1182 01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:28,570 it using activated MSK stem cells in a Phase one 1183 01:01:28,570 --> 01:01:33,710 clinical trial that was very successful and. It 1184 01:01:34,250 --> 01:01:37,070 was a huge benefit for treating haemorrhagic 1185 01:01:37,070 --> 01:01:41,120 stroke. We have no other way to treat that other 1186 01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:45,140 than the MSF, M.S., stem cell treatments, but it 1187 01:01:45,140 --> 01:01:48,830 takes years to grow those cultures on Earth or 1188 01:01:48,830 --> 01:01:51,740 months at least, to grow enough stem cells for 1189 01:01:51,740 --> 01:01:54,860 treatments. We can do it literally in weeks in 1190 01:01:54,860 --> 01:01:59,690 space. So that vision of exos was to put an 1191 01:01:59,690 --> 01:02:03,350 orbital launcher up with a thousand or a six 1192 01:02:03,350 --> 01:02:06,590 hundred telegrammed thousand pounds of payload and 1193 01:02:06,590 --> 01:02:12,230 create these crystals or activated stem cells that 1194 01:02:12,230 --> 01:02:14,780 literally can treat thousands and thousands of 1195 01:02:14,780 --> 01:02:18,560 people. Except we would be like a mini 1196 01:02:19,490 --> 01:02:21,350 international space station. We would put the 1197 01:02:21,350 --> 01:02:24,290 payload into space for three weeks, four weeks. 1198 01:02:24,290 --> 01:02:27,230 Whatever the biochemist tell us the gestation 1199 01:02:27,230 --> 01:02:29,330 period is. And then we would bring it back to the 1200 01:02:29,330 --> 01:02:33,110 launch site for treatment of those patients. And 1201 01:02:33,110 --> 01:02:35,870 then spaceship ultimately will be delivering 1202 01:02:35,870 --> 01:02:39,440 payloads to Leo. We envision more of those 1203 01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:41,540 payloads being biomedical than necessarily 1204 01:02:41,540 --> 01:02:44,510 satellites, but obviously we will serve that 1205 01:02:44,510 --> 01:02:49,020 business segment as well. Next slide, please. And 1206 01:02:49,020 --> 01:02:52,020 with that, back to our viewers for Q&A. 1207 01:03:06,980 --> 01:03:09,080 We do have a few of your questions, and we also do 1208 01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:12,380 have a few preprepared, our first question is from 1209 01:03:12,380 --> 01:03:16,760 Chris and Ken. I think this one goes to you. Chris 1210 01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:20,240 says, A leading microalgae researcher at an 1211 01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:22,790 American university expressed the painful process 1212 01:03:22,790 --> 01:03:26,330 of getting anything approved to fly to the SS. Are 1213 01:03:26,330 --> 01:03:28,430 you aware of this perspective and is anything 1214 01:03:28,430 --> 01:03:30,230 being done to address this concern? 1215 01:03:32,340 --> 01:03:35,520 Yes, we are keenly aware of that perspective, I 1216 01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:37,740 have that perspective myself and I live and work 1217 01:03:37,740 --> 01:03:41,850 in the environment every day. So, yes, one of our 1218 01:03:41,850 --> 01:03:44,730 highest goals, constant process improvement, the 1219 01:03:44,730 --> 01:03:46,840 processes that we're referring to here that were 1220 01:03:46,870 --> 01:03:49,530 NASA excess integration and safety certification 1221 01:03:49,530 --> 01:03:53,520 processes. So there's there's a limitation as to 1222 01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:57,000 what we as of as an organization that's outside of 1223 01:03:57,000 --> 01:04:00,300 NASA. There's a limitation to how we can influence 1224 01:04:00,300 --> 01:04:04,080 that and we can't redo their processes. We 1225 01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:06,390 certainly provide that feedback on a constant 1226 01:04:06,390 --> 01:04:10,260 basis. And it's not that the NASA payloads office, 1227 01:04:10,260 --> 01:04:12,840 the ICE program office, it's not that they aren't 1228 01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:14,850 aware of this. And there have been some 1229 01:04:14,850 --> 01:04:17,100 significant improvements over the past, say, three 1230 01:04:17,100 --> 01:04:20,160 to five years through an initiative that they 1231 01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:22,290 called Ri's, which is essentially a process 1232 01:04:22,290 --> 01:04:24,870 improvement initiative. So, yes, there is 1233 01:04:24,870 --> 01:04:26,820 awareness, there are measures being taken to 1234 01:04:26,820 --> 01:04:30,570 improve it. There are some challenges in doing R&D 1235 01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:34,620 on a crew vehicle in Liow that that we have to 1236 01:04:35,100 --> 01:04:37,320 find a good middle ground to assure safety of the 1237 01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:40,020 vehicle safety of the of the crew and also 1238 01:04:40,020 --> 01:04:42,630 accomplish what we want to accomplish on space 1239 01:04:42,630 --> 01:04:45,450 station and get the process done in a in a 1240 01:04:45,450 --> 01:04:49,860 compressed timeline as possible. So we're on it. 1241 01:04:49,890 --> 01:04:53,820 We're trying that. We're trying to do better. OK, 1242 01:04:53,820 --> 01:04:56,790 thank you. Another question we have and ask for 1243 01:04:56,790 --> 01:05:00,560 both to can or to Jennifer. This is from Jeremy. 1244 01:05:00,570 --> 01:05:03,060 How long do you expect the ISIS to continue to 1245 01:05:03,060 --> 01:05:03,540 operate? 1246 01:05:06,570 --> 01:05:10,800 I guess I'll start. So the good thing is that ICE 1247 01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:14,490 is in great, healthy condition. We've done 1248 01:05:14,490 --> 01:05:16,980 structural studies to show that it can last up to 1249 01:05:16,980 --> 01:05:20,910 20, 30. Even beyond that, there are plans to add 1250 01:05:20,910 --> 01:05:24,870 even more modules in the near future. So we're 1251 01:05:24,870 --> 01:05:28,350 hoping that it lasts quite a bit longer. I like to 1252 01:05:28,350 --> 01:05:32,790 think of it as a long lifetime and not something 1253 01:05:32,790 --> 01:05:36,480 that we would have to stop using as the great 1254 01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:40,650 platform that it is any time in the future. So I 1255 01:05:40,650 --> 01:05:43,860 hope I know that ISIS itself can sustain well into 1256 01:05:43,860 --> 01:05:45,900 the future and hopefully that's actually what we 1257 01:05:45,900 --> 01:05:46,890 see it being used for. 1258 01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:52,200 Candy, in the ad, are you guys advocating that was 1259 01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:53,850 going to be my question to everyone because of the 1260 01:05:53,850 --> 01:05:58,260 fact that the twenty twenty four. Yeah, from from 1261 01:05:58,260 --> 01:06:00,690 a case is a national perspective. We still think 1262 01:06:00,690 --> 01:06:04,440 the IRS has a lot of valuable and useful life 1263 01:06:04,540 --> 01:06:08,910 remaining. And so we would certainly be hopeful 1264 01:06:09,110 --> 01:06:11,370 that an extension would be there until such time 1265 01:06:11,370 --> 01:06:16,260 as we have another platform to move to shuttle 1266 01:06:16,620 --> 01:06:18,360 Suzy over here and shuttle others were here and 1267 01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:21,540 shuttle. I think going back, we would all admit 1268 01:06:21,540 --> 01:06:25,620 that not having something to transfer over to was 1269 01:06:25,620 --> 01:06:27,510 really tough. And so let's not make that same 1270 01:06:27,510 --> 01:06:30,420 mistake again. Let's use the ISIS to chart a path 1271 01:06:30,420 --> 01:06:33,720 forward. Let's use it for for all it's worth today 1272 01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:36,810 until we have another outpost in Liow or somewhere 1273 01:06:36,810 --> 01:06:42,030 in space to continue to do our work. Thank you. We 1274 01:06:42,030 --> 01:06:44,400 have a question from George. This is for John. 1275 01:06:44,940 --> 01:06:48,000 What is the excess transportation system range? 1276 01:06:51,890 --> 01:06:56,150 So I'll answer that as to segment the range for 1277 01:06:56,150 --> 01:06:58,770 the Sergej vehicles designed for 100 kilometers, 1278 01:06:58,770 --> 01:07:01,850 so only two to three minutes of microgravity. So 1279 01:07:01,850 --> 01:07:05,930 it serves as a great interim test that if you have 1280 01:07:05,930 --> 01:07:08,600 something that needs weeks, it needs human tending. 1281 01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:12,260 That's where you go to the excess. But we have an 1282 01:07:12,260 --> 01:07:16,430 opportunity to test there as far as the range 1283 01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:20,540 under the orbital approach that we're doing with 1284 01:07:21,020 --> 01:07:23,210 Teagle towed glider air launch, which was 1285 01:07:24,020 --> 01:07:27,380 developed by NASA, DARPA, Air Force universities, 1286 01:07:29,180 --> 01:07:33,890 that technology, the range comes down to basically 1287 01:07:33,890 --> 01:07:35,990 where you launch from and now you're launching 1288 01:07:35,990 --> 01:07:40,400 from virtually any airport in the world. And that 1289 01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:43,640 vehicle obviously will be an orbital capable 1290 01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:49,220 launcher. And with that capability, it's a 600 1291 01:07:49,220 --> 01:07:53,810 kilogram payload. Leo is a perfect place to put it 1292 01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:57,290 for those shorter duration type of experiments 1293 01:07:57,500 --> 01:07:59,570 that don't have to be human tender, that could be 1294 01:07:59,570 --> 01:08:03,560 robotic tended. And that gives us huge advantages 1295 01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:07,850 where we believe we can do the same type of put a 1296 01:08:07,850 --> 01:08:14,090 payload on in 75 days, be at launch to kind of 1297 01:08:14,090 --> 01:08:18,170 mitigate some of that and help people advance to 1298 01:08:18,170 --> 01:08:22,700 the highest with certainty that not only is their 1299 01:08:22,700 --> 01:08:25,220 payload going to work in that microgravity or 1300 01:08:25,370 --> 01:08:28,340 vacuum environment, but also that they have dotted 1301 01:08:28,340 --> 01:08:31,010 all their I's and cross all their T's before going 1302 01:08:31,010 --> 01:08:34,550 on to assess it. Those long duration human 1303 01:08:34,570 --> 01:08:36,710 attendings are required. So I think it makes a 1304 01:08:36,710 --> 01:08:40,620 great partnership. I hope I answer that question 1305 01:08:40,620 --> 01:08:45,000 form. You did, and then I think, you know, this 1306 01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:48,210 question is for Carol. Carol, how does the 1307 01:08:48,210 --> 01:08:51,150 commercialization of ISIS in Libya open 1308 01:08:51,150 --> 01:08:53,910 opportunities to do work internationally where it 1309 01:08:53,910 --> 01:08:57,270 was difficult to penetrate before? OK, good 1310 01:08:57,270 --> 01:09:02,100 question. So in our case, having something like 1311 01:09:02,100 --> 01:09:04,500 our flight test platform and then also the 1312 01:09:04,500 --> 01:09:06,210 satellite to be able to integrate different 1313 01:09:06,210 --> 01:09:08,730 technologies kind of gave us a unique opening to 1314 01:09:08,730 --> 01:09:11,490 approach what I would call the underrepresented 1315 01:09:11,490 --> 01:09:14,040 countries or are looking to advance our space 1316 01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:16,230 program. But they just don't have big budgets or 1317 01:09:16,230 --> 01:09:19,260 their budgets have been cut. And it was a way to 1318 01:09:19,260 --> 01:09:21,000 kind of stand out. And so that's what we've been 1319 01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:23,550 doing. We've actually been working with several 1320 01:09:23,550 --> 01:09:27,300 countries as customers, also joint ventures, also 1321 01:09:27,300 --> 01:09:31,710 targeting some of the smaller international firms 1322 01:09:31,890 --> 01:09:33,870 for those partnerships. Some of them have 1323 01:09:33,870 --> 01:09:36,240 capabilities that we don't have and we have 1324 01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:38,370 capabilities that they don't have. And so it's 1325 01:09:38,370 --> 01:09:40,260 just given given us an opportunity to have a 1326 01:09:40,260 --> 01:09:42,900 really unique conversation and set ourselves apart 1327 01:09:42,900 --> 01:09:48,550 from competition. OK, thank you. This question is 1328 01:09:48,550 --> 01:09:51,670 for Jennifer Jennifer, NASA is connecting a new 1329 01:09:51,670 --> 01:09:54,470 series of solar arrays to ISIS starting this year. 1330 01:09:54,850 --> 01:09:57,070 What will that mean for the ISIS capabilities to 1331 01:09:57,070 --> 01:10:01,810 host new modules and research? Yeah, so in order 1332 01:10:01,810 --> 01:10:06,700 to live and operate on ISIS, we need a dependable, 1333 01:10:06,700 --> 01:10:09,880 steady source of power. And so as NASA works 1334 01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:12,760 towards increasing the usage of ISIS, which a lot 1335 01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:15,100 of those things we we talked about today, we want 1336 01:10:15,100 --> 01:10:17,650 to continue to do more of. So it was deemed 1337 01:10:17,650 --> 01:10:21,670 necessary to upgrade the power system also in 1338 01:10:21,670 --> 01:10:23,650 order to allow station just to operate more 1339 01:10:23,650 --> 01:10:27,940 effectively and support growth in these areas. So 1340 01:10:27,940 --> 01:10:29,800 adding these new arrays is actually going to 1341 01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:35,050 enable and further expand ISIS capabilities I 1342 01:10:35,050 --> 01:10:37,720 mentioned will have new modules coming up. It will 1343 01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:40,630 also support the continued technology development 1344 01:10:40,630 --> 01:10:43,090 that we have going on, as well as just advanced 1345 01:10:43,100 --> 01:10:45,550 those research opportunities that we talked about 1346 01:10:45,550 --> 01:10:48,100 today. So that was the main reason why we're doing 1347 01:10:48,100 --> 01:10:51,070 it. And it will just help with the life of station. 1348 01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:58,370 OK, thank you. Now, here's another one for Ken in 1349 01:10:58,370 --> 01:11:00,260 your presentation, you discussed commercial 1350 01:11:00,260 --> 01:11:03,500 service providers. Can you expand on their role 1351 01:11:03,500 --> 01:11:05,600 with Spacestation in the lab? And then how might 1352 01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:07,790 these companies play a role in developing a low 1353 01:11:07,790 --> 01:11:13,170 Earth orbit economy? Yes, sure. So so first and 1354 01:11:13,170 --> 01:11:17,010 foremost for us at the National Lab, these 1355 01:11:17,010 --> 01:11:19,980 commercial service provider companies, they are 1356 01:11:19,980 --> 01:11:23,100 essentially the engineering and project scientists 1357 01:11:23,100 --> 01:11:25,440 that are implementing most of the research in our 1358 01:11:25,440 --> 01:11:30,150 portfolio. So most of our users right now are they 1359 01:11:30,150 --> 01:11:32,430 tend to use these commercial capabilities as 1360 01:11:32,430 --> 01:11:35,880 opposed to the traditional networks, the 1361 01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:37,500 government furnished equipment that's been on 1362 01:11:37,500 --> 01:11:42,600 station maybe for a couple many years anyway. Some 1363 01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:44,790 of it isn't up to date. Some of it's not 1364 01:11:44,790 --> 01:11:49,560 necessarily available for NASA use. So that's a 1365 01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:52,410 huge primary function for us, is there there where 1366 01:11:52,410 --> 01:11:54,780 the rubber meets the road as far as us doing 1367 01:11:54,780 --> 01:11:58,650 microgravity research, maybe not quite as obvious, 1368 01:11:58,650 --> 01:12:02,670 or these other areas that you heard Carol refer to. 1369 01:12:02,670 --> 01:12:06,540 And I also reference in my talk was these 1370 01:12:06,540 --> 01:12:08,370 companies really are sort of at the tip of the 1371 01:12:08,370 --> 01:12:12,800 spear in showing us how to do business in space. 1372 01:12:12,860 --> 01:12:14,700 When I say do business in space, I'm not 1373 01:12:14,700 --> 01:12:17,490 necessarily talking about the engineering side of 1374 01:12:17,490 --> 01:12:20,280 that equation, but literally, how do you construct 1375 01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:22,950 agreements? How do you get insurance for payloads 1376 01:12:23,440 --> 01:12:26,850 that you're flying for the private sector? How do 1377 01:12:26,850 --> 01:12:30,750 you operate on a platform or within a platform 1378 01:12:30,750 --> 01:12:33,170 that you don't own? You're just an installation. 1379 01:12:33,180 --> 01:12:38,340 So there's all sorts of areas that there they're 1380 01:12:38,470 --> 01:12:42,200 they're there are guiding light that aren't aren't 1381 01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:44,250 related to engineering and science. And these 1382 01:12:44,250 --> 01:12:46,380 things are really, really important, learning how 1383 01:12:46,380 --> 01:12:48,270 to operate and develop those frameworks and 1384 01:12:48,270 --> 01:12:52,260 structures. Beyond that, they are also creating 1385 01:12:52,260 --> 01:12:56,370 some some fantastic research discoveries through 1386 01:12:57,000 --> 01:13:00,360 clients and users and projects that that they are 1387 01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:03,360 going out and sourcing aimed at using their 1388 01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:06,810 platform. You know, John talked about stem cell 1389 01:13:07,290 --> 01:13:10,290 research and stem cell proliferation in the 1390 01:13:10,290 --> 01:13:13,440 presence of microgravity that will go into 1391 01:13:13,440 --> 01:13:15,420 regenerative medicine. We've got at least two 1392 01:13:15,420 --> 01:13:17,730 partners that come to mind who are driving 1393 01:13:17,730 --> 01:13:21,780 research programs in those areas on their own. And 1394 01:13:21,780 --> 01:13:25,350 so it's multifaceted as to what the importance of 1395 01:13:25,350 --> 01:13:28,170 what they're doing today is. And I think it's 1396 01:13:28,170 --> 01:13:31,350 going to be a key to the success of future 1397 01:13:31,350 --> 01:13:33,890 platforms that aren't the ISIS when we're ready to 1398 01:13:33,990 --> 01:13:38,580 move off of the ISIS. OK, thank you. Here's a 1399 01:13:38,580 --> 01:13:40,710 question for you, but I'll start off with John 1400 01:13:40,710 --> 01:13:43,560 answering it. What are the biggest challenges to 1401 01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:46,740 the commercialization of Liow or suborbital orbit? 1402 01:13:49,780 --> 01:13:54,130 Oh, I think one of the large challenges that we 1403 01:13:54,130 --> 01:13:58,270 have to overcome, obviously our launch costs to 1404 01:13:58,270 --> 01:14:03,230 make it where it can be feasible for, you know, 1405 01:14:03,460 --> 01:14:07,060 schools to be putting payloads up, we have to 1406 01:14:07,060 --> 01:14:08,680 bring the cost down and we have to make it 1407 01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:14,740 flexible where they are and actually do something. 1408 01:14:15,130 --> 01:14:19,720 And probably a great example is we've had payloads 1409 01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:24,190 from schools come in and we've had to reject them 1410 01:14:24,190 --> 01:14:25,630 and we send them back to the school. And it's a 1411 01:14:25,630 --> 01:14:29,530 great problem to have, actually, because we'll 1412 01:14:29,530 --> 01:14:31,330 tell them, yeah, we don't believe this will 1413 01:14:31,330 --> 01:14:34,630 survive 11 G. But work with your physics teacher 1414 01:14:34,630 --> 01:14:38,890 at the school and. Two days later, they come back 1415 01:14:38,890 --> 01:14:40,670 and they say, we figured out how to solve it. 1416 01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:42,550 We're going to drop it from the second story 1417 01:14:42,550 --> 01:14:46,240 window of the school, and that emulates 11 because 1418 01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:48,640 of the height and with the acceleration, that's 1419 01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:50,800 where it will be. And those are the types of 1420 01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:53,530 things that I think are one of our biggest 1421 01:14:53,530 --> 01:14:57,280 barriers, not as the launch provider, but as 1422 01:14:58,900 --> 01:15:03,100 educators, is to get the kids thinking about these 1423 01:15:03,100 --> 01:15:05,020 things and solving these problems because they'll 1424 01:15:05,020 --> 01:15:07,600 solve them in ways that are so outside the box. 1425 01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:11,380 They don't even have a box. Right. So I think we 1426 01:15:11,380 --> 01:15:14,560 get beyond that and we get it into the mainstream 1427 01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:16,960 of schools working on these space problems. 1428 01:15:19,020 --> 01:15:22,660 It will change generations to come. OK, thanks, 1429 01:15:22,660 --> 01:15:24,160 John. Same question to you, Jennifer. 1430 01:15:27,740 --> 01:15:31,340 So I would say. One of our biggest challenges can 1431 01:15:31,340 --> 01:15:35,600 be understanding what ISIS has to offer, because 1432 01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:38,930 it's such a huge platform and a huge vehicle and 1433 01:15:38,930 --> 01:15:42,350 separating that from going to these smaller 1434 01:15:42,350 --> 01:15:45,170 platforms and understanding what it makes sense to 1435 01:15:45,170 --> 01:15:48,860 do. So how we keep ISIS capabilities up and 1436 01:15:48,860 --> 01:15:51,680 running and utilize it, but then at the same time 1437 01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:56,090 realizing that there isn't a chance that will have 1438 01:15:56,660 --> 01:15:59,750 to go smaller. And we need to know when that clean 1439 01:15:59,750 --> 01:16:02,240 break is. And kind of like Ken was talking about 1440 01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:04,940 with the shuttle program, we don't want to be in a 1441 01:16:04,940 --> 01:16:07,550 situation where we don't have something to roll 1442 01:16:07,820 --> 01:16:11,330 over and into when it makes sense. So I think we 1443 01:16:11,330 --> 01:16:13,970 have to right now think about finding that balance 1444 01:16:13,970 --> 01:16:17,030 between what we already have and what we're going 1445 01:16:17,030 --> 01:16:20,570 to do in the future. OK, thank you. And Ken, 1446 01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:24,500 what's your answer? I think our biggest challenges, 1447 01:16:24,510 --> 01:16:27,710 our biggest opportunities, commercialization, 1448 01:16:27,710 --> 01:16:30,380 we've talked about it a lot lately, but it's 1449 01:16:30,380 --> 01:16:34,310 really a novel idea, right? For decades and I 1450 01:16:34,310 --> 01:16:36,260 mentioned it before, space has been the domain of 1451 01:16:36,260 --> 01:16:40,520 NASA. And only now, within these last five years, 1452 01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:44,150 our industry and private sector organizations 1453 01:16:44,150 --> 01:16:47,210 understanding, hey, there is an opportunity to go 1454 01:16:47,210 --> 01:16:49,970 and do something there, but they still don't know 1455 01:16:49,970 --> 01:16:52,820 exactly what it is to go and do there. So the 1456 01:16:52,820 --> 01:16:56,120 challenges are the opportunities we have to go and 1457 01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:59,270 develop those use cases, those proof of concept, 1458 01:16:59,540 --> 01:17:02,090 so that industry and private sector and commercial 1459 01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:05,770 sector understands there is a reason to go there. 1460 01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:10,640 There it is, the new gold rush. So I think I think 1461 01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:12,350 there's more opportunities than challenges. 1462 01:17:12,350 --> 01:17:15,380 Frankly, the challenge is getting the word out and 1463 01:17:15,380 --> 01:17:17,720 running the test cases to ground and then letting 1464 01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:22,670 industry step in and run with it. OK, thanks, Ken 1465 01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:27,070 and Carol and took my answer, but that's OK. Well, 1466 01:17:27,390 --> 01:17:29,250 no, I'm just giving it is like that. I think it's 1467 01:17:29,400 --> 01:17:31,620 we don't know what we don't know. And especially 1468 01:17:31,620 --> 01:17:33,360 as a small business, you're trying to figure it 1469 01:17:33,380 --> 01:17:35,490 out. There's that opportunity being first of light. 1470 01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:38,130 That means there's no path to follow. And 1471 01:17:38,130 --> 01:17:41,010 certainly from a small business perspective, that 1472 01:17:41,010 --> 01:17:43,970 can be kind of costly. But also, again, like you 1473 01:17:43,980 --> 01:17:46,380 said, not not really understanding what the 1474 01:17:46,380 --> 01:17:49,170 opportunities are, but even how to take advantage 1475 01:17:49,170 --> 01:17:51,630 of those opportunities. So but that's I mean, 1476 01:17:51,630 --> 01:17:53,250 that's going to be the challenge any time that 1477 01:17:53,250 --> 01:17:55,230 you've got that links to the novel, make one more 1478 01:17:55,230 --> 01:17:58,920 comment. Yeah, sure. But not not a challenge, but 1479 01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:00,870 I think it's a threat we need to be cognizant of. 1480 01:18:00,870 --> 01:18:03,510 We need to be patient. Right. I think we hear a 1481 01:18:03,510 --> 01:18:05,760 lot about commercialization and discussion of 1482 01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:08,310 commercialization. And we're only at the very 1483 01:18:08,310 --> 01:18:11,560 beginning of this this era of industrial 1484 01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:15,660 localising, Leo and SpaceX and developing these 1485 01:18:15,660 --> 01:18:17,670 reasons to go to space and do things and 1486 01:18:17,670 --> 01:18:20,040 manufacture things. And I think it's important 1487 01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:23,880 that stakeholders in a lot of different places 1488 01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:27,150 understand that it takes time. And we're just at 1489 01:18:27,150 --> 01:18:30,600 the forefront of this and we've got to be patient, 1490 01:18:31,020 --> 01:18:33,510 cede it, support it and enable. 1491 01:18:35,730 --> 01:18:39,330 OK, thanks. And Ken, we do have another question 1492 01:18:39,330 --> 01:18:42,720 to you from Theresa. Sorry, it's what stem 1493 01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:47,260 educational resources do you have? And lots will, 1494 01:18:47,260 --> 01:18:49,300 Carol, and her company is one group that we work 1495 01:18:49,300 --> 01:18:52,090 with actually over her facility. She's a partner 1496 01:18:52,090 --> 01:18:54,580 in our consortium of education partners that we 1497 01:18:54,580 --> 01:18:58,690 have. We have a consortium of educators, education 1498 01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:01,570 organizations called Space Station Explorers. You 1499 01:19:01,570 --> 01:19:04,690 can go to our website, ISIS, National Laberge. 1500 01:19:05,110 --> 01:19:09,880 There are all sorts of opportunities for students, 1501 01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:12,520 either in school or out of school to participate 1502 01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:16,210 in CubeSat development, participate in data from 1503 01:19:16,210 --> 01:19:19,510 microgravity research and work that in a ground 1504 01:19:19,510 --> 01:19:21,900 based kit to see why their data is different than 1505 01:19:21,910 --> 01:19:25,120 than what happened in space. All of our programs, 1506 01:19:25,630 --> 01:19:28,930 90 percent of our programs are hands on project 1507 01:19:28,930 --> 01:19:35,530 based, using space based investigative data. We 1508 01:19:35,530 --> 01:19:38,860 rely on a model of maybe one mission, one 1509 01:19:38,860 --> 01:19:42,940 experiment being leveraged and used by tens of 1510 01:19:42,940 --> 01:19:45,910 thousands of students across the country. So 1511 01:19:45,910 --> 01:19:48,070 please go to our website. We've got all sorts of 1512 01:19:48,070 --> 01:19:50,050 opportunity there. Every discipline that you can 1513 01:19:50,050 --> 01:19:52,480 think of and please take advantage of. A lot of 1514 01:19:52,480 --> 01:19:55,120 them are no cost. So jump all over that if you can. 1515 01:19:56,650 --> 01:19:59,560 That's great to hear. Kent, thanks. So another 1516 01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:03,190 question. This one to Jennifer is our 1517 01:20:03,190 --> 01:20:05,620 International Space agencies promoting 1518 01:20:05,620 --> 01:20:12,480 commercialization of the ISS? OK, so in my role on 1519 01:20:12,480 --> 01:20:14,430 ISIS, a lot of what we do with the international 1520 01:20:14,430 --> 01:20:17,880 partners is sustaining the vehicle, running the 1521 01:20:17,880 --> 01:20:21,660 experiments that they have to run. And I don't 1522 01:20:21,660 --> 01:20:23,700 think it's that they were would be against the 1523 01:20:23,700 --> 01:20:26,460 commercialization of I. I can't say that I have 1524 01:20:26,460 --> 01:20:28,620 direct knowledge of what they're doing on their 1525 01:20:28,620 --> 01:20:31,680 side. I know from the NASA perspective, in the 1526 01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:33,650 Boeing perspective, we've talked about partnering, 1527 01:20:33,870 --> 01:20:38,490 partnering with those international agencies in 1528 01:20:38,490 --> 01:20:40,470 the commercialization of Liow and also in deep 1529 01:20:40,470 --> 01:20:43,470 space. Just because we've worked together for so 1530 01:20:43,470 --> 01:20:45,630 long and it's been such a great partnership, there 1531 01:20:45,660 --> 01:20:50,010 are things that we get from our partners that NASA 1532 01:20:50,010 --> 01:20:53,400 doesn't you know, it's better if we get it from 1533 01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:55,050 them. They've been doing it for a long time, like 1534 01:20:55,740 --> 01:20:58,260 Canadian Space Agency and their robotic arm. So we 1535 01:20:58,260 --> 01:21:00,810 already have that partnership built. I think that 1536 01:21:00,810 --> 01:21:03,690 if we're talking about working together in 1537 01:21:03,700 --> 01:21:08,040 commercialization, it can only help us. OK, thanks. 1538 01:21:08,060 --> 01:21:11,120 And can do you have anything to say on that? I 1539 01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:13,430 would just say yes. Other international partners 1540 01:21:13,430 --> 01:21:16,550 on the U.S. are pursuing commercialization. Great 1541 01:21:16,550 --> 01:21:19,940 example. One of the approaches JAXA, for instance, 1542 01:21:19,940 --> 01:21:24,110 takes an approach where they are offering access 1543 01:21:24,110 --> 01:21:28,100 to Kibo and JAXA facilities that Jex is not using. 1544 01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:31,010 They have an outlet to to run that through their 1545 01:21:31,010 --> 01:21:32,960 private sector and give them access to those 1546 01:21:32,960 --> 01:21:35,660 resources on a non interference basis and I think 1547 01:21:35,660 --> 01:21:37,820 a partial cost reimbursement basis. So, yes, 1548 01:21:38,150 --> 01:21:41,570 people are pursuing other ways to do it because 1549 01:21:42,470 --> 01:21:44,060 this is a question for John. And then Jennifer, 1550 01:21:44,060 --> 01:21:46,640 you might want to jump in. What impact do you 1551 01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:49,280 think frequent launch will have on the airline 1552 01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:51,290 industry and how do you propose the launch 1553 01:21:51,290 --> 01:21:52,390 industry address it? 1554 01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:57,550 Yeah, so I think one of the big things, obviously, 1555 01:21:57,880 --> 01:22:02,590 is as we start talking about frequent flights, we 1556 01:22:02,590 --> 01:22:06,240 have to find a way to do it better, faster, 1557 01:22:06,250 --> 01:22:09,070 smarter, without interfering with that commercial 1558 01:22:09,070 --> 01:22:12,610 traffic. Unfortunately, especially for heavy lift, 1559 01:22:12,620 --> 01:22:17,440 we're very much tied to a solid ground 1560 01:22:17,440 --> 01:22:21,220 infrastructure. And hopefully what I'll call new 1561 01:22:21,220 --> 01:22:25,510 space can come in and offer some alternatives for 1562 01:22:25,630 --> 01:22:28,360 the smaller payloads, at least to reduce that 1563 01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:30,670 burden for some of the low earth orbit 1564 01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:34,570 constellations that we're working on. So, again, 1565 01:22:34,570 --> 01:22:38,950 air launch has great benefits just from 1566 01:22:38,950 --> 01:22:41,200 capabilities of launch trajectory, getting 1567 01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:44,770 something on target sooner to where you actually 1568 01:22:44,770 --> 01:22:48,490 need it rather than it traversing on a third stage 1569 01:22:48,490 --> 01:22:52,390 to get there for months. So I think naturally 1570 01:22:53,830 --> 01:22:58,030 those solutions will start to have some sway in 1571 01:22:58,030 --> 01:23:01,120 the markets and even drive customers a little bit 1572 01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:03,820 to go for those solutions because of some of those 1573 01:23:03,820 --> 01:23:08,950 benefits. Great question. Thank you. And Jennifer, 1574 01:23:08,950 --> 01:23:10,470 I was asking you, since Boeing is also in the 1575 01:23:10,470 --> 01:23:12,480 airline industry, that what are your thoughts on 1576 01:23:12,480 --> 01:23:15,310 how do we guess? Yeah, so I can definitely see 1577 01:23:15,330 --> 01:23:18,210 there's been an impact. And when we're talking 1578 01:23:18,210 --> 01:23:22,530 about having more things in that Liow that low 1579 01:23:22,530 --> 01:23:25,020 Earth orbit and commercializing it, we're going to 1580 01:23:25,110 --> 01:23:29,190 have that need to launch more and launch often on 1581 01:23:29,190 --> 01:23:33,810 ISIS supplies and resources are expensive. We 1582 01:23:33,810 --> 01:23:36,960 don't get as many launches as we would like just 1583 01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:40,470 based on the expense of what it takes to launch 1584 01:23:40,470 --> 01:23:42,270 one of those rockets. And so I think that it's 1585 01:23:42,270 --> 01:23:44,370 great that people are looking into other 1586 01:23:44,370 --> 01:23:47,790 opportunities to get supplies and satellites and 1587 01:23:47,790 --> 01:23:49,530 whatever it is, you know, so we can continue doing 1588 01:23:49,860 --> 01:23:53,490 experiments and Leo. But it's definitely something 1589 01:23:53,490 --> 01:23:57,330 we need to consider because and just general air 1590 01:23:57,330 --> 01:24:01,200 traffic and flights and travel is not getting 1591 01:24:01,800 --> 01:24:04,590 slower. I mean, covid kind of put a little bit of 1592 01:24:04,590 --> 01:24:06,780 a dent in that. But I think once we get past that 1593 01:24:06,780 --> 01:24:09,870 and figure it out and we'll see it expand even 1594 01:24:09,870 --> 01:24:11,670 more. So it's something that's going to be an 1595 01:24:11,670 --> 01:24:15,300 issue going forward. We can't ignore it. The space 1596 01:24:15,300 --> 01:24:17,130 traffic management and air traffic management 1597 01:24:17,130 --> 01:24:17,580 combined. 1598 01:24:20,100 --> 01:24:22,470 Back to Carol. So regarding the international 1599 01:24:22,470 --> 01:24:25,110 partnerships, what elements of your business had 1600 01:24:25,110 --> 01:24:27,360 to be addressed like impacts on current business 1601 01:24:27,360 --> 01:24:30,440 from a security standpoint or other things? Yeah, 1602 01:24:30,480 --> 01:24:33,420 that that was one of my biggest concerns. You as a 1603 01:24:33,420 --> 01:24:36,930 government contractor and with facility clearances 1604 01:24:36,930 --> 01:24:39,750 and things like that, making sure that we're not 1605 01:24:39,750 --> 01:24:43,290 doing anything that violates any any make sure to 1606 01:24:43,300 --> 01:24:45,200 do something that puts me in an orange jumpsuit. 1607 01:24:45,510 --> 01:24:48,120 But but I think it's all of those. And it's not 1608 01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:50,490 just that we're looking at joint ventures with 1609 01:24:50,490 --> 01:24:51,810 international firms. So then you've got 1610 01:24:51,810 --> 01:24:54,600 international tax laws. And it really what it's 1611 01:24:54,600 --> 01:24:58,110 done for us is it's kind of expanded my group of 1612 01:24:58,110 --> 01:25:01,020 support, my advisors, whether it's the more 1613 01:25:01,020 --> 01:25:05,640 lawyers and more insurance types and the tax 1614 01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:07,560 accountants and things like that. But it really, 1615 01:25:07,740 --> 01:25:12,000 really is just that awareness of it's not your 1616 01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:14,790 typical doing business domestically. And there's a 1617 01:25:14,790 --> 01:25:17,420 lot of other challenges, but not insurmountable. 1618 01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:19,620 And as long as you're asked and the questions and 1619 01:25:19,620 --> 01:25:22,830 eyes wide open and obviously the ISIS is the 1620 01:25:22,830 --> 01:25:25,410 International Space Station. And so it works. And 1621 01:25:25,410 --> 01:25:27,400 that's what's kind of exciting about it, is it's 1622 01:25:28,200 --> 01:25:30,630 that marketing in itself says we should be doing 1623 01:25:30,630 --> 01:25:34,520 this. We should have a partnerships. OK, thank you. 1624 01:25:34,620 --> 01:25:38,880 I can promise cases make decisions on which 1625 01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:41,430 projects or programs are awarded with access and 1626 01:25:41,430 --> 01:25:45,900 use of the ISIS national lab resources. Yeah, 1627 01:25:45,900 --> 01:25:50,730 great question. So firstly, the proposals come in 1628 01:25:50,820 --> 01:25:54,750 cases because of the competitive solicitations, 1629 01:25:54,750 --> 01:25:56,400 research announcements, announcements of 1630 01:25:56,400 --> 01:25:59,820 opportunity. We have those sort of organically 1631 01:25:59,820 --> 01:26:01,830 grown cases that we release. I mentioned a couple 1632 01:26:01,830 --> 01:26:04,440 that are open now. We also partner with government 1633 01:26:04,440 --> 01:26:07,500 agencies, NIH, NSF, to support their solicitations 1634 01:26:07,500 --> 01:26:11,520 that want to go use the ice as an an interesting 1635 01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:13,470 approach we've developed over the years is to 1636 01:26:13,470 --> 01:26:16,950 partner with incubators, business incubators like 1637 01:26:16,950 --> 01:26:19,680 Mars Challenge up in the Cambridge, Massachusetts 1638 01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:22,620 area. We've gotten some awesome companies that 1639 01:26:22,620 --> 01:26:25,320 have come in through those avenues. Once the 1640 01:26:25,320 --> 01:26:28,350 proposals come in, we have followed the model of 1641 01:26:28,350 --> 01:26:32,330 NIH and NSF and other agencies. We do peer review, 1642 01:26:32,340 --> 01:26:34,770 external peer review using said subject matter 1643 01:26:34,770 --> 01:26:37,920 experts that review scientific and technical merit. 1644 01:26:38,250 --> 01:26:41,400 We publish all of the evaluation criteria and 1645 01:26:41,400 --> 01:26:44,370 rubrics of the proposers know exactly what they're 1646 01:26:44,370 --> 01:26:47,010 going to be sort of evaluated or graded against. 1647 01:26:48,090 --> 01:26:50,910 And we also do an operational sort of research, 1648 01:26:50,910 --> 01:26:53,670 feasibility assessment that feeds into what the 1649 01:26:53,670 --> 01:26:57,360 final score is that feeds into an A.M. rating. 1650 01:26:58,110 --> 01:27:01,410 Excellent. Very good. Good. Not selectable. And 1651 01:27:01,410 --> 01:27:04,140 then we have a payload selection panel led by our 1652 01:27:04,140 --> 01:27:06,720 executive director, who is the selection official. 1653 01:27:07,050 --> 01:27:10,380 And he essentially sort of codifies the selections 1654 01:27:10,380 --> 01:27:12,630 in accordance with what the results of the process 1655 01:27:13,320 --> 01:27:18,450 were. So we modeled after NIH, but we we try very 1656 01:27:18,450 --> 01:27:20,820 hard to compress that timeline. We like to get 1657 01:27:20,820 --> 01:27:24,030 from solicitation or research announcement opening 1658 01:27:24,360 --> 01:27:27,210 to a determination or selection of proposals, 1659 01:27:27,210 --> 01:27:30,450 certainly within a roughly a 90 day window, which 1660 01:27:30,450 --> 01:27:32,640 is, I think, less than half of what the 1661 01:27:32,640 --> 01:27:34,500 traditional timeline is. So we're trying to move 1662 01:27:34,500 --> 01:27:37,680 fast. We want to select fast. We want to fly fast 1663 01:27:37,680 --> 01:27:40,440 and fly as much as we can with a good high degree 1664 01:27:40,440 --> 01:27:44,040 of mission assurance and its higher potential 1665 01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:46,530 return on impact for the for the tax payers. We 1666 01:27:46,530 --> 01:27:46,800 can. 1667 01:27:48,970 --> 01:27:52,360 Thank you. Another question for Jennifer. Jennifer, 1668 01:27:52,810 --> 01:27:55,150 what did potential customers ask for when they 1669 01:27:55,150 --> 01:27:56,710 inquire about the ISIS? 1670 01:27:59,450 --> 01:28:02,630 Yeah, so one of the main things that customers ask 1671 01:28:02,630 --> 01:28:05,840 for is that they want to know how they can use 1672 01:28:05,990 --> 01:28:09,890 their experiments, their science in a microgravity 1673 01:28:09,890 --> 01:28:11,510 environment, and how is that going to help them 1674 01:28:11,840 --> 01:28:16,310 advance their designs for use on Earth. So there 1675 01:28:16,340 --> 01:28:19,130 are a number of companies that work with one. I 1676 01:28:19,130 --> 01:28:21,920 can give an example called equilibrium. What 1677 01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:25,460 they've done is they have introduced what would be 1678 01:28:25,460 --> 01:28:29,750 a very small pump that injects medicine in micro 1679 01:28:29,750 --> 01:28:33,530 doses over a constant rate to a patient versus 1680 01:28:33,530 --> 01:28:36,650 just one large dose like a needle would do. So 1681 01:28:36,650 --> 01:28:40,880 their intent is that people can use it in any type 1682 01:28:40,880 --> 01:28:42,860 of activity. So whether you're sleeping, you're 1683 01:28:42,860 --> 01:28:45,650 running, you're swimming in microgravity 1684 01:28:45,650 --> 01:28:48,200 environment. And ISIS allowed them to be able to 1685 01:28:48,200 --> 01:28:50,870 test their pump and that environment and see how 1686 01:28:50,870 --> 01:28:53,570 that changed versus what it would be like here in 1687 01:28:53,570 --> 01:28:54,080 gravity. 1688 01:28:56,700 --> 01:28:57,630 OK, thank you. 1689 01:28:59,730 --> 01:29:00,810 And the last question. 1690 01:29:14,570 --> 01:29:18,130 I had problems with my video, so last question for 1691 01:29:18,130 --> 01:29:21,070 everyone is what were the things you did 1692 01:29:21,070 --> 01:29:24,040 differently dealing with COGAT this year? We'll 1693 01:29:24,040 --> 01:29:25,720 start with John. 1694 01:29:28,700 --> 01:29:33,500 Yeah, so for us, we've always avoided Department 1695 01:29:33,500 --> 01:29:38,030 of Defense work, however, with the anticipation of 1696 01:29:38,480 --> 01:29:42,050 payloads disappearing because universities were 1697 01:29:42,050 --> 01:29:44,600 going to be closed for a while, we shifted to the 1698 01:29:44,600 --> 01:29:48,680 Department of Defense work and got a phase one 1699 01:29:48,680 --> 01:29:52,280 contract followed by a phase two contract. So we 1700 01:29:52,280 --> 01:29:56,060 got to go over and do some DOD things that I've 1701 01:29:56,060 --> 01:29:59,180 done in other companies, but not for exos. So it 1702 01:29:59,180 --> 01:30:05,390 was a great pivot, especially looking back. And I 1703 01:30:05,390 --> 01:30:09,510 said on. Thank you. I'm Jennifer. 1704 01:30:11,680 --> 01:30:15,310 So for us, thankfully, on the ISIS side here in 1705 01:30:15,310 --> 01:30:18,880 Houston, we have developed plans where teams can 1706 01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:22,210 work remotely because we have hurricanes here. So 1707 01:30:22,210 --> 01:30:24,400 if there's ever a case where we would need to 1708 01:30:24,610 --> 01:30:27,280 either have a team evacuate or kind of like a 1709 01:30:27,280 --> 01:30:29,950 shelter in place sort of situation, we've had 1710 01:30:29,950 --> 01:30:33,280 those infrastructures in place so that we can 1711 01:30:33,280 --> 01:30:36,040 operate in a remote capacity. So what we did was 1712 01:30:36,190 --> 01:30:38,500 when Katrina hit, we essentially just switched our 1713 01:30:38,500 --> 01:30:41,500 operations to instead of having people in person 1714 01:30:41,710 --> 01:30:43,930 and our mission evaluation room, they would be 1715 01:30:43,930 --> 01:30:46,570 able to work from their homes remote. So for us, 1716 01:30:46,570 --> 01:30:49,090 it was somewhat of a smooth transition. It's just 1717 01:30:49,090 --> 01:30:51,250 the bummer of not getting to see your co-workers 1718 01:30:51,250 --> 01:30:57,710 day to day. Yes, Nigerian and Carol. So kind of 1719 01:30:57,710 --> 01:30:59,810 like Jennifer, I mean, we business wise didn't 1720 01:30:59,810 --> 01:31:01,730 really change a whole lot, I was just trying to 1721 01:31:01,730 --> 01:31:03,890 manage a small company, over three hundred 1722 01:31:03,890 --> 01:31:05,540 employees and all those different states and 1723 01:31:05,540 --> 01:31:08,060 getting them all working remotely and then and 1724 01:31:08,060 --> 01:31:09,950 then just changing have it to work for us. To be 1725 01:31:09,950 --> 01:31:12,560 honest, on the international side, we were able to 1726 01:31:12,560 --> 01:31:15,470 reach out to more international perspective 1727 01:31:15,470 --> 01:31:17,840 customers. I mean, I think we actually got more 1728 01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:20,150 work done because you stop traveling, you're a 1729 01:31:20,150 --> 01:31:22,700 little more focused and all of a sudden technology, 1730 01:31:22,700 --> 01:31:25,190 everybody's good with the whole zoom in technology. 1731 01:31:25,190 --> 01:31:27,680 And our biggest challenges are manufacturing, I 1732 01:31:27,680 --> 01:31:30,380 think was really putting a bubble around the 1733 01:31:30,380 --> 01:31:32,390 manufacturing facility, because if someone got 1734 01:31:32,390 --> 01:31:35,240 sick there, the whole process went down. So I'm 1735 01:31:35,270 --> 01:31:36,920 very blessed that our business could kind of 1736 01:31:36,920 --> 01:31:39,650 continue. We actually grew but had to be had to be 1737 01:31:39,650 --> 01:31:42,410 careful about being too close and all those kind 1738 01:31:42,410 --> 01:31:48,170 of standard things. OK, thanks. And Ken. Very 1739 01:31:48,170 --> 01:31:51,950 similar to to the other panelists, after maybe 1740 01:31:51,950 --> 01:31:54,530 freaking out initially a little bit, we embraced 1741 01:31:54,530 --> 01:31:57,170 it, embraced the opportunity, embraced the virtual 1742 01:31:57,170 --> 01:32:00,890 environment. And it what we found that it actually 1743 01:32:01,970 --> 01:32:05,690 opened up our ability to access a heck of a lot 1744 01:32:05,690 --> 01:32:08,150 more people from a heck of a lot more places than 1745 01:32:08,150 --> 01:32:11,750 we ever have before. And so, fortunately, knock on 1746 01:32:11,750 --> 01:32:14,120 wood and thank goodness our business operations, 1747 01:32:14,120 --> 01:32:17,510 our payload operations weren't all too terribly 1748 01:32:17,510 --> 01:32:20,690 adversely affected. I think it's actually brought 1749 01:32:20,690 --> 01:32:22,580 some opportunities to us that we weren't aware of 1750 01:32:22,580 --> 01:32:27,360 before. And I will tell you so from my program 1751 01:32:27,360 --> 01:32:29,580 chair and myself as chair of this conference, we 1752 01:32:29,580 --> 01:32:32,550 were able to expand our reach because it wasn't in 1753 01:32:32,550 --> 01:32:35,790 person to tap people who usually wouldn't attack 1754 01:32:35,790 --> 01:32:38,190 because we try to always bring everybody here. So 1755 01:32:38,550 --> 01:32:40,260 like you said, there's been pros and cons to it, 1756 01:32:40,260 --> 01:32:42,510 although we definitely do miss seeing everyone in 1757 01:32:42,510 --> 01:32:45,180 person. So I want to thank all your panelists 1758 01:32:45,840 --> 01:32:48,510 that's going to wrap up this panel. And it's also 1759 01:32:48,510 --> 01:32:50,700 going to conclude our panelists for today.