1 00:00:00,270 --> 00:00:02,910 I'm going to share my screen, hopefully that works 2 00:00:02,910 --> 00:00:11,410 out. That's the first hurdle. And let's see. Now, 3 00:00:11,430 --> 00:00:16,050 I need to switch that display. OK, I think you can 4 00:00:16,050 --> 00:00:17,330 all see that, is that right? 5 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:25,590 So one of the ways that I think about this is what 6 00:00:25,590 --> 00:00:28,320 I would have loved to know before I started doing 7 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:32,820 this a long time ago, because one of the things 8 00:00:32,820 --> 00:00:35,310 that's interesting is that, you know, writing 9 00:00:35,310 --> 00:00:39,810 effective proposals is very important to many 10 00:00:39,810 --> 00:00:43,710 people's careers, gathering, you know, grant 11 00:00:43,710 --> 00:00:46,080 funded programs and that sort of thing. But 12 00:00:46,350 --> 00:00:49,350 there's not a lot of time spent on actually 13 00:00:49,650 --> 00:00:54,210 helping people write these things. So I'm hoping 14 00:00:54,210 --> 00:00:56,190 that today, within the hour, we're going to go 15 00:00:56,190 --> 00:00:59,520 over and hit some of the highlights. This is not 16 00:00:59,970 --> 00:01:03,150 an all exhaustive sort of a presentation because 17 00:01:03,150 --> 00:01:05,940 honestly, some of these things you could have a 18 00:01:05,940 --> 00:01:09,120 little webinar in and of itself on just a couple 19 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:13,530 of these items. So what I did was to go through to 20 00:01:13,530 --> 00:01:18,840 sort of outline in general what an effective 21 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:21,180 proposal looks like and then take a look at the 22 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,870 Ignite proposal, the undergraduate proposal that 23 00:01:24,870 --> 00:01:28,920 is going to be due on March 3rd, I believe, with 24 00:01:29,190 --> 00:01:34,850 undergraduate research. So my name is Dr. Detour. 25 00:01:34,890 --> 00:01:40,800 And again, one of these things is the idea of 26 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,740 being rejected. Oh, my gosh, doesn't it hurt? And 27 00:01:43,740 --> 00:01:46,560 I was thinking about this, how this is of the day 28 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,830 after Valentine's Day. And I am sure that there 29 00:01:49,860 --> 00:01:52,950 are some people that maybe had proposals of a 30 00:01:52,950 --> 00:01:55,920 marriage variety and were rejected. And doesn't 31 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,130 that feel horrible? So one of the things that you 32 00:01:59,130 --> 00:02:02,370 need to know about writing a proposal is if you 33 00:02:02,370 --> 00:02:06,930 first don't succeed, try try again. Sometimes you 34 00:02:06,930 --> 00:02:11,010 will get great feedback from a rejection that will 35 00:02:11,010 --> 00:02:15,570 actually catapult you into a funded situation, 36 00:02:15,570 --> 00:02:20,340 perhaps the next year. So just a little bit about 37 00:02:20,340 --> 00:02:25,320 me, why am I doing this? Well, again, when I got 38 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,470 to Embrey Riddle, one of the things that I had 39 00:02:29,250 --> 00:02:33,690 sort of done is I was awarded the outstanding 40 00:02:33,690 --> 00:02:36,510 dissertation proposal in the College of Liberal 41 00:02:36,510 --> 00:02:40,470 Arts at Southern Illinois University. Yeah, way 42 00:02:40,470 --> 00:02:43,020 back in the day. And the thing was, I never even 43 00:02:43,020 --> 00:02:47,130 thought I was qualified to put a proposal in. It 44 00:02:47,130 --> 00:02:50,460 was only because of two of my professors that said, 45 00:02:50,460 --> 00:02:53,550 why aren't you submitting anything for that? And I 46 00:02:53,550 --> 00:02:56,460 thought, well, there's about ten thousand students 47 00:02:56,460 --> 00:02:59,940 in the College of Liberal Arts. And I didn't think 48 00:02:59,940 --> 00:03:04,800 I had a chance. And I submitted my proposal and I 49 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,470 actually was awarded it. So one of the things that 50 00:03:07,470 --> 00:03:10,830 you need to do is to think about the fact that. 51 00:03:11,820 --> 00:03:14,670 These proposals are out there if nobody submits 52 00:03:14,670 --> 00:03:19,560 one, right? You know, you have a better chance of 53 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:23,900 getting them. In terms of my dissertation proposal, 54 00:03:23,910 --> 00:03:26,190 there were hundreds of proposals that I was 55 00:03:26,850 --> 00:03:28,890 competing against. But I think the thing that 56 00:03:28,890 --> 00:03:31,800 stood out in terms of mine was that I had done a 57 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:35,910 lot of research in terms of trying to provide the 58 00:03:35,910 --> 00:03:40,020 reviewers the things about what had gone before 59 00:03:40,020 --> 00:03:42,770 and how my dissertation was going to be different. 60 00:03:42,780 --> 00:03:45,060 And I think that's something that we'll talk about 61 00:03:45,060 --> 00:03:49,860 as well. The other thing that I've done is as a 62 00:03:49,860 --> 00:03:53,580 copy or P.I., I've brought in about eight hundred 63 00:03:53,580 --> 00:03:57,150 thousand dollars in grant funding. And one of the 64 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,590 ones that I've done is the NSF STEM grants, which 65 00:04:01,590 --> 00:04:05,400 I'll talk about. It dispersed about six hundred 66 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,640 thousand dollars over the period of five years and 67 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:12,810 those provided scholarships for students. So we'll 68 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,200 kind of talk about those. I put some links up here, 69 00:04:15,510 --> 00:04:18,630 my first grants and Embry Riddle was actually for 70 00:04:18,630 --> 00:04:21,780 a gem's camp, which was girls exploring math and 71 00:04:21,780 --> 00:04:27,050 science. I had submitted it and then was rejected. 72 00:04:27,060 --> 00:04:29,250 And then the next year I submitted it again 73 00:04:29,670 --> 00:04:32,850 because of the comments that the reviewers gave me. 74 00:04:32,850 --> 00:04:35,620 And I and I did get that fifteen thousand dollar 75 00:04:35,620 --> 00:04:39,570 reward, which was enough to help us with the the 76 00:04:39,650 --> 00:04:42,690 camp. All right. So one of the things I'd like to 77 00:04:42,690 --> 00:04:46,440 know is a little bit about you. There are some 78 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:50,340 people live here. If maybe a couple of you want to 79 00:04:50,340 --> 00:04:52,840 let me know why you're here, that would be great. 80 00:04:52,860 --> 00:04:55,110 You can also put that in the chat. And hopefully 81 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,680 Britney will let me know what you're saying. But 82 00:04:59,100 --> 00:05:02,310 please turn your microphones on. And just a few of 83 00:05:02,310 --> 00:05:05,130 you, if you are you undergraduate's, are you 84 00:05:05,130 --> 00:05:08,580 graduate students? Are you faculty or staff? I 85 00:05:08,580 --> 00:05:10,080 know a few of you, so. 86 00:05:16,100 --> 00:05:18,860 You said the best show, so I'm Rich Nichols and 87 00:05:18,860 --> 00:05:21,290 the assistant dean of retention and parents 88 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:25,340 programs, and I'm writing proposals all the time, 89 00:05:25,340 --> 00:05:30,080 whether it's to the sets at the university and 90 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,290 then proposals for presentations and everything. 91 00:05:33,290 --> 00:05:36,470 So I can always use some tips and pointers, 92 00:05:36,770 --> 00:05:39,260 especially from a true pro like doctor, the tour. 93 00:05:39,470 --> 00:05:42,260 So thanks. Thanks for the plug. 94 00:05:45,620 --> 00:05:46,600 Anybody else? 95 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,050 But I can go. My name is Dr. UniMac with the 96 00:05:52,050 --> 00:05:54,750 Office of Undergraduate Research. I'm just here to 97 00:05:54,750 --> 00:05:56,790 learn more about proposals because, of course, 98 00:05:56,790 --> 00:05:58,440 students come and talk to us about them all the 99 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,260 time. So I want to be able to give them sound 100 00:06:01,260 --> 00:06:03,540 expert advice whenever they come to our office as 101 00:06:03,540 --> 00:06:06,180 well. So thank you for doing this. Oh, you're 102 00:06:06,180 --> 00:06:10,510 welcome. And one more person or. Hi, I'm 103 00:06:10,530 --> 00:06:14,820 journalist and faculty and I've got two students 104 00:06:14,820 --> 00:06:17,580 that I'm shepherding through the dissertation 105 00:06:17,580 --> 00:06:22,330 process right now. Well, bless you. That is an 106 00:06:23,110 --> 00:06:26,950 arduous process for sure. I've served on three 107 00:06:26,950 --> 00:06:31,210 committees at this point and it's a very long 108 00:06:31,420 --> 00:06:37,300 process, can take years. So yeah, it can. I've 109 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,120 probably been the methodology methodologies on two 110 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,390 or three hundred dissertations well over the years 111 00:06:43,420 --> 00:06:49,600 so far. But being the chair is I have a bigger 112 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:53,470 responsibility. Absolutely. You are the point 113 00:06:53,470 --> 00:06:58,330 person for sure. Yeah. So the overview is we're 114 00:06:58,330 --> 00:07:03,340 going to look particularly at RFP request for 115 00:07:03,340 --> 00:07:06,250 proposals in depth because I think that's pretty 116 00:07:06,250 --> 00:07:09,220 important. We're going to look at that ignite 117 00:07:09,740 --> 00:07:12,520 grounds in particular and some of the things you 118 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,130 should do before a lot of you may know these 119 00:07:15,130 --> 00:07:18,760 things. So this is probably for the undergraduates 120 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:22,270 who may have not submitted a proposal before and 121 00:07:22,270 --> 00:07:24,250 don't know these things. And then we're going to 122 00:07:24,250 --> 00:07:26,800 look a little bit further at the components of a 123 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,800 proposal and then I finish up with some links to 124 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,650 help you. It's my understanding that when this is 125 00:07:32,650 --> 00:07:36,400 finished, you'll get the actual PowerPoint that 126 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:39,250 I've put together and the links will be live for 127 00:07:39,250 --> 00:07:43,590 you to to click on. So. All right, so one of the 128 00:07:43,590 --> 00:07:46,200 things I wanted to look at and again, hopefully 129 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:52,050 this will work out is that I wanted to look at 130 00:07:52,050 --> 00:07:58,710 this particular RFP because it is very similar to 131 00:08:00,390 --> 00:08:03,990 anything that the NSF would be putting out in that 132 00:08:03,990 --> 00:08:06,660 sort of thing. So can everybody see the. 133 00:08:09,010 --> 00:08:15,220 The grants, no or no? Yes. All right, so this was 134 00:08:15,250 --> 00:08:20,050 the announcement and again, for mostly for the 135 00:08:20,050 --> 00:08:23,950 undergraduates here, you want to think about how 136 00:08:23,950 --> 00:08:29,230 much the award maximum is and what you need for 137 00:08:29,230 --> 00:08:31,840 your grant. So, for instance, if you need twenty 138 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:35,470 five thousand dollars for a grant and you probably 139 00:08:35,470 --> 00:08:38,770 can't do anything with less, this probably is not 140 00:08:38,770 --> 00:08:42,070 the grant for you, because as you can see here, 141 00:08:42,370 --> 00:08:44,230 the awards are going to average about five 142 00:08:44,230 --> 00:08:46,330 thousand dollars each. They do go up to ten 143 00:08:46,330 --> 00:08:49,480 thousand dollars. But again, that's probably not 144 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,390 going to give you enough money. Now, sometimes 145 00:08:53,170 --> 00:08:57,070 maybe you have several grants that you can cobble 146 00:08:57,070 --> 00:09:01,960 together to create some funding. But in general, 147 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:05,110 you want to look at the grants in terms of, you 148 00:09:05,110 --> 00:09:09,490 know, how much can I give you and, you know, how 149 00:09:09,490 --> 00:09:11,710 much can you put together and so forth. Now, this 150 00:09:11,710 --> 00:09:14,650 grammes is due on March 3rd, so that's very, very 151 00:09:14,650 --> 00:09:18,790 soon. And then another thing you want to look at 152 00:09:18,790 --> 00:09:22,780 are things such as eligibility. So for this 153 00:09:22,780 --> 00:09:25,270 particular one, even though there might be 154 00:09:25,270 --> 00:09:29,740 graduate students on it, this one is for 155 00:09:29,770 --> 00:09:33,520 undergraduates primarily. So the undergraduate has 156 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,040 to be the PI. So even though you might have a 157 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,560 graduate student who has more experience writing 158 00:09:38,560 --> 00:09:43,680 grants, the pie has to be an undergraduate. And 159 00:09:43,680 --> 00:09:47,270 that's another caveat of a lot of these. So what 160 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:51,210 one of the the grants that I had put together was 161 00:09:51,210 --> 00:09:56,820 this STEM grants with the NSF, and it took me a 162 00:09:56,820 --> 00:10:00,270 long while to put together the people for this 163 00:10:00,270 --> 00:10:03,720 particular grants. But I could even though I wrote 164 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,960 the grants, I could not be the P.I. on it, because 165 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:11,130 according to the NSF, it had to be a professor in 166 00:10:11,130 --> 00:10:13,710 the College of Engineering. And that person had to 167 00:10:13,710 --> 00:10:17,760 either be I think it was a mechanical computer 168 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:22,800 science or aerospace engineer. And so 169 00:10:24,930 --> 00:10:27,840 even though I had done, you know, essentially 170 00:10:28,110 --> 00:10:31,020 putting together the whole thing. It doesn't 171 00:10:31,020 --> 00:10:34,710 matter because, again, the grants might have to 172 00:10:34,710 --> 00:10:38,580 live in a particular college, in this case, it was 173 00:10:38,580 --> 00:10:41,430 the College of Engineering. So in this particular 174 00:10:41,430 --> 00:10:44,340 grant, I believe the budget cost center is going 175 00:10:44,340 --> 00:10:46,740 to be managed by the Office of Undergraduate 176 00:10:46,740 --> 00:10:51,780 Research, which is where Dr. Ronnie Mack is. So 177 00:10:52,020 --> 00:10:54,240 think about those kinds of things and then the 178 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:57,660 deliverables. What are you actually responsible 179 00:10:57,660 --> 00:11:00,840 for at the end of this grant? So there's a 180 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:05,940 Discovery Day that you have to do and also submit 181 00:11:06,330 --> 00:11:09,900 a manuscript, according to the Beyond Research 182 00:11:09,900 --> 00:11:13,890 Journal and that sort of thing. And again, the 183 00:11:13,890 --> 00:11:18,720 person that is going to be the P.I. has to be an 184 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,660 undergraduate at the time of the funding. So 185 00:11:21,660 --> 00:11:24,460 that's also something that you want to consider. 186 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:29,160 So perhaps, let's say they the PI is actually a 187 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,430 senior graduating in the spring. That can't happen 188 00:11:32,430 --> 00:11:34,620 because the funding is not going to be dispersed 189 00:11:34,620 --> 00:11:38,250 until July. Twenty twenty three, I believe. The 190 00:11:38,250 --> 00:11:41,640 other thing that grants usually do, the RFP is to 191 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:45,090 provide criteria and a lot of people don't look at 192 00:11:45,090 --> 00:11:47,730 those for some reason. It's just like when 193 00:11:47,970 --> 00:11:50,790 students have an assignment and you provide the 194 00:11:50,790 --> 00:11:53,940 rubric for them and you're thinking, why doesn't 195 00:11:53,940 --> 00:11:56,220 the assignment line up with a rubric? Well, 196 00:11:56,220 --> 00:12:00,080 because they're not looking at the rubric. So lots 197 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:04,250 of times they're very times the people putting out 198 00:12:04,250 --> 00:12:06,710 these grants and they will include a rubric, as 199 00:12:06,710 --> 00:12:08,690 this one does, and we'll take a look at that as 200 00:12:08,690 --> 00:12:11,870 well. And then we have human subjects and that 201 00:12:11,870 --> 00:12:14,420 sort of thing. All right. So I'm going to go back 202 00:12:15,140 --> 00:12:21,400 to the. Now we're back. Are we not? I'm hoping. 203 00:12:23,330 --> 00:12:27,290 Can you see the actual PowerPoint? Yes. OK. All 204 00:12:27,290 --> 00:12:31,190 right, so again, writing a proposal can take 205 00:12:31,190 --> 00:12:34,490 months. And one of the things that you want to do 206 00:12:34,490 --> 00:12:38,240 is to contact the office of sponsored programs 207 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,900 immediately as soon as you're interested in a 208 00:12:41,900 --> 00:12:45,290 grant. So some grants will again, there's there's 209 00:12:45,290 --> 00:12:47,150 tons of grants out there. And they put out a 210 00:12:47,150 --> 00:12:50,450 newsletter that will categorize all these grants 211 00:12:50,450 --> 00:12:53,600 and lists them and so forth. So you want to choose 212 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:57,260 a grant that is going to be advantageous for your 213 00:12:57,260 --> 00:12:59,960 project? There are projects out there that will 214 00:12:59,960 --> 00:13:03,320 not be right. So you don't want to try to fit the 215 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:06,320 square peg in a round hole. You want to choose a 216 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,590 grant that is going to be advantageous for you so 217 00:13:09,590 --> 00:13:12,170 sponsored programs can help you with so much. I 218 00:13:12,170 --> 00:13:15,680 contacted them before I did this particular 219 00:13:16,460 --> 00:13:20,660 presentation and Aurora Karmichael told me that 220 00:13:21,380 --> 00:13:24,500 she's the person to contact. If you are interested 221 00:13:24,500 --> 00:13:26,990 in doing anything, they can help you with 222 00:13:26,990 --> 00:13:30,590 budgeting for faculty members, help you with 223 00:13:30,590 --> 00:13:33,770 compliance issues, help you with the entire 224 00:13:33,770 --> 00:13:37,940 submittal sort of process, and sometimes can even 225 00:13:37,940 --> 00:13:40,400 run around and help you get signatures if you're 226 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,400 kind of in a tight spot. So those are the kinds of 227 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,430 things that you want to think about. The other 228 00:13:46,430 --> 00:13:51,500 thing ahead of time is has to do with human 229 00:13:51,500 --> 00:13:53,810 subjects. So are any of you going to be working 230 00:13:53,810 --> 00:13:57,710 with human subjects? You know, there's any anyone 231 00:13:57,710 --> 00:14:01,730 out there who's. Got a project with human subjects? 232 00:14:02,060 --> 00:14:05,210 Yes, well, I have two projects with human subjects 233 00:14:05,210 --> 00:14:08,120 and I'm familiar with the IAB and I already have 234 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:11,810 certification and so do my students. OK, great. A 235 00:14:11,810 --> 00:14:14,690 lot of people don't know that they have to contact 236 00:14:14,690 --> 00:14:20,660 the IRB and submit their their entire methodology 237 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:24,860 working on that now. Right. And they can take, you 238 00:14:24,860 --> 00:14:29,780 know, several weeks sometimes. Yes. Yeah. So it's 239 00:14:29,780 --> 00:14:33,290 not like an immediate process where you hand 240 00:14:33,300 --> 00:14:35,570 something in and then a couple of days later you 241 00:14:35,570 --> 00:14:38,570 get approval, you know, back and forth, sort of 242 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:42,830 monotonous. And when I quit my I have a thesis 243 00:14:42,830 --> 00:14:46,520 class that I teach and the students were 244 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,430 submitting this during that hurricane process, 245 00:14:49,580 --> 00:14:53,810 remember? And so it slowed this whole thing down 246 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,930 and they only have a semester to create their 247 00:14:56,930 --> 00:15:00,200 thesis. So this was kind of a problem. Right. So 248 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,510 but, you know, what can you do when there's two 249 00:15:02,510 --> 00:15:05,000 hurricanes in a row in the state of Florida? Not 250 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,060 much. So the mandatory training that you have to 251 00:15:08,060 --> 00:15:13,070 do as a faculty advisor is different than the the 252 00:15:13,340 --> 00:15:16,510 training that students have to do. But if you go 253 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,730 in and use this link, you'll see that there's a 254 00:15:19,790 --> 00:15:21,890 city training. You would do human subjects. 255 00:15:21,890 --> 00:15:24,800 There's human subjects for faculty or staff in 256 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:29,750 human subjects for students. There's also some 257 00:15:29,750 --> 00:15:32,420 other little things that you can do if you're 258 00:15:32,420 --> 00:15:35,870 working with prisoners or with children. So I just 259 00:15:35,870 --> 00:15:37,940 wanted to kind of put that out there. But that's 260 00:15:37,940 --> 00:15:40,280 something, again, that the Institutional Research 261 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:44,330 Board does. Terry Gabriel is your contact. And 262 00:15:44,330 --> 00:15:47,420 again, these are things that you have to do weeks 263 00:15:47,420 --> 00:15:49,490 ahead of time. You want to make sure that you have 264 00:15:49,490 --> 00:15:52,760 your study training all ducks in a row and all of 265 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:57,230 that kind of thing. So this is a typical structure 266 00:15:57,230 --> 00:16:02,210 for a proposal, give or take the specifics of an 267 00:16:02,210 --> 00:16:06,050 RFP. You have your executive summary, which also 268 00:16:06,050 --> 00:16:09,830 can be called an abstract specific aims of the 269 00:16:09,830 --> 00:16:13,130 proposal or the description. There's a background 270 00:16:13,130 --> 00:16:16,220 and significance also sometimes called the 271 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,670 literature review. Any preliminary studies that 272 00:16:19,670 --> 00:16:21,860 you might have done. You want to include your 273 00:16:21,860 --> 00:16:24,920 research plan, which does have a calendar and a 274 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,860 timetable, address any issues. Do you have any 275 00:16:27,860 --> 00:16:32,150 issues regarding human subjects or disposing of 276 00:16:32,150 --> 00:16:34,760 materials in that sort of thing? You would have to 277 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:38,630 get approvals there. And again, the timeline for 278 00:16:38,630 --> 00:16:43,280 completing tasks in maybe a phase one or phase two 279 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:46,610 is also something that you want to consider. 280 00:16:47,450 --> 00:16:50,240 Usually, again, there's a methods and procedures 281 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:53,450 section. There would be a results and discussion 282 00:16:53,450 --> 00:16:56,420 if you're writing it up in terms of a thesis or 283 00:16:56,420 --> 00:16:59,510 dissertation and then a summary or conclusion and 284 00:16:59,510 --> 00:17:02,090 your references after that, you could have an 285 00:17:02,090 --> 00:17:07,520 appendix as well. So in looking at the Ignite RFP, 286 00:17:07,730 --> 00:17:11,210 I wanted just to point out that most of the grant 287 00:17:11,210 --> 00:17:16,460 funded proposals have a proposal cover, which is 288 00:17:16,460 --> 00:17:19,880 not the same thing as your proposal cover for a 289 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:23,210 thesis or dissertation, because this particular 290 00:17:23,210 --> 00:17:26,150 cover is generally provided by the grant funding 291 00:17:26,150 --> 00:17:29,390 institution and has all of the signatures that you 292 00:17:29,390 --> 00:17:32,150 need. And what kind of signatures are we talking 293 00:17:32,150 --> 00:17:36,260 about? They can run from your department chair and 294 00:17:36,260 --> 00:17:38,450 your faculty advisor all the way up to the 295 00:17:38,450 --> 00:17:42,830 president of the college or the provost, because 296 00:17:42,860 --> 00:17:46,700 the money that you have said that they will 297 00:17:46,700 --> 00:17:50,960 provide, sometimes you have to do a match for some 298 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:52,790 of these things. So if the grant funding 299 00:17:52,790 --> 00:17:56,090 institution is providing, say, fifty thousand 300 00:17:56,090 --> 00:17:59,690 dollars, maybe the school, the university has to 301 00:17:59,690 --> 00:18:02,450 match fifty thousand dollars as well, or maybe 302 00:18:02,450 --> 00:18:05,750 they're providing some kind of in kind equipment 303 00:18:06,260 --> 00:18:08,990 or something like that. All of that has to be 304 00:18:08,990 --> 00:18:12,470 signed off on. Right. So in the project 305 00:18:12,470 --> 00:18:15,620 description and do you have any questions, by the 306 00:18:15,620 --> 00:18:17,930 way? Anybody have any questions before I kind of 307 00:18:17,930 --> 00:18:21,060 go on here? Death by PowerPoint is not a good 308 00:18:21,060 --> 00:18:26,400 thing, so. In the RFP, one of the things that's 309 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:30,690 really important is for you to read how many pages 310 00:18:30,690 --> 00:18:33,630 are Emax? And I can't tell you how many times 311 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:37,950 people will go over this, Max, and think that it's 312 00:18:37,950 --> 00:18:41,910 fine. It's not if they say it's six pages, it's 313 00:18:41,910 --> 00:18:45,660 six pages and it's not six pages and a little bit 314 00:18:45,660 --> 00:18:50,730 of seven. So if it is, that won't be accepted. 315 00:18:51,090 --> 00:18:53,850 This is single spaced and it has to be greater 316 00:18:53,850 --> 00:18:56,700 than 10 points because people have to actually see 317 00:18:56,700 --> 00:18:59,700 it without a magnifying glass. So if you think 318 00:18:59,700 --> 00:19:02,370 you're going to be smart about it and you're going 319 00:19:02,370 --> 00:19:07,290 to take, say, 12 pages and condense it into eight 320 00:19:07,290 --> 00:19:10,590 point type, you're not doing anybody any favors 321 00:19:10,590 --> 00:19:15,060 that will be rejected. Right. So the abstract here 322 00:19:15,060 --> 00:19:18,630 is already one page maximum. So there's one page 323 00:19:18,630 --> 00:19:22,680 of your six pages gone. So now you have five pages 324 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:26,540 to deliver the rest of this. There's the 325 00:19:26,540 --> 00:19:31,490 background, which, again, talks about the sort of 326 00:19:32,060 --> 00:19:34,760 the literature review, the methodology, which 327 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,910 includes a timetable, a significance. Why is this 328 00:19:37,910 --> 00:19:41,660 unique and what what kind of research questions 329 00:19:41,660 --> 00:19:45,080 does it answer? That is really important. And then 330 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,150 the communication of findings. We're going to go 331 00:19:47,150 --> 00:19:50,720 through each of these in depth, but basically lots 332 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,690 of brand funding. Institutions now want to know 333 00:19:53,990 --> 00:19:56,900 how are you communicating the findings? Because, 334 00:19:56,900 --> 00:20:00,810 of course, they want to have some publicity, too. 335 00:20:01,310 --> 00:20:05,450 So are you going to put this into a journal? And 336 00:20:05,450 --> 00:20:09,050 if so, which ones are you going to have a social 337 00:20:09,050 --> 00:20:11,990 media presence or are you going to have a Web page? 338 00:20:12,290 --> 00:20:15,890 Are you going to deliver this to community or 339 00:20:15,890 --> 00:20:18,980 maybe other universities and a webinar or 340 00:20:18,980 --> 00:20:21,920 something like that? They want to know how that is 341 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:25,760 being used. And a lot of times you'll want to use 342 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,850 their logo on things that you are using for 343 00:20:28,850 --> 00:20:33,830 promotional materials like brochures, T-shirts or 344 00:20:33,830 --> 00:20:37,220 whatever happens to be the case. The other thing 345 00:20:37,220 --> 00:20:40,700 is the adequacy of resources. Someone wants to 346 00:20:40,700 --> 00:20:43,580 know that you have the space and the facilities to 347 00:20:43,580 --> 00:20:47,780 actually carry out this plan. So is your lab large 348 00:20:47,780 --> 00:20:50,810 enough? Does your lab have the kinds of things in 349 00:20:50,810 --> 00:20:54,410 it right now that's going to be conducive to 350 00:20:54,410 --> 00:20:59,060 finishing up this experiment? If you don't, you 351 00:20:59,060 --> 00:21:01,520 should have thought of how you're going to procure 352 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:05,210 these things, right? Perhaps that's part of your 353 00:21:05,990 --> 00:21:11,810 request for money. A lot of times grants like this 354 00:21:11,810 --> 00:21:15,290 might pay for some capital type stuff like large 355 00:21:15,290 --> 00:21:18,860 equipment, but a lot of times that will then 356 00:21:18,860 --> 00:21:21,830 belong to the university itself and not to the 357 00:21:21,830 --> 00:21:24,260 individual. So that's something else you might 358 00:21:24,260 --> 00:21:28,010 want to think about if you are a researcher and 359 00:21:28,010 --> 00:21:32,690 you don't plan on being at the institution for so 360 00:21:32,690 --> 00:21:36,110 many years, but you have asked for this equipment, 361 00:21:36,110 --> 00:21:39,860 the equipment doesn't follow you. Generally, it's 362 00:21:39,860 --> 00:21:44,180 left in the auspices of the university and they 363 00:21:44,180 --> 00:21:47,420 are the caretakers of it. The other thing is 364 00:21:47,420 --> 00:21:50,020 approval's and we'll talk about safety risks in a 365 00:21:50,030 --> 00:21:53,570 in a bit as well. There's also a we're excited 366 00:21:53,570 --> 00:21:57,140 page or references. So the Ignite grant is 367 00:21:57,140 --> 00:22:00,680 actually interesting because I noticed it did have 368 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,250 creative submissions in there. So if you're doing 369 00:22:04,250 --> 00:22:07,370 those, then generally you would use Melee, which 370 00:22:07,370 --> 00:22:10,280 is the Modern Language Association, which is the 371 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,940 works cited page. And then if you're using steam, 372 00:22:13,940 --> 00:22:18,200 we usually use the APA, the Association of the 373 00:22:18,980 --> 00:22:23,600 Psychological Association. Then there's a student 374 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,150 group resume's. So what does the student group, 375 00:22:26,150 --> 00:22:29,060 what have they achieved and then what are the 376 00:22:29,060 --> 00:22:32,750 individual's achievements of the if the PI, for 377 00:22:32,750 --> 00:22:36,020 instance, has engaged in research before and has 378 00:22:36,020 --> 00:22:38,570 gotten a grant or participated in Discovery Day 379 00:22:38,570 --> 00:22:40,370 before, those are the kinds of things you would 380 00:22:40,370 --> 00:22:43,310 put in there. There is a budget and again, two 381 00:22:43,310 --> 00:22:45,290 page max. They just want to know where is the 382 00:22:45,290 --> 00:22:47,540 money going? What are you using it for? Right. 383 00:22:47,770 --> 00:22:50,660 They don't want to think that you're panning your 384 00:22:50,660 --> 00:22:53,360 own pockets with this thing. Are you going to buy 385 00:22:53,360 --> 00:22:56,150 some materials that will then again stay with the 386 00:22:56,150 --> 00:22:58,910 university? Are there expendable things that 387 00:22:58,910 --> 00:23:01,670 you're going to you know, a lot of people don't 388 00:23:01,670 --> 00:23:04,130 think about copies and things like that and pads 389 00:23:04,130 --> 00:23:07,460 of paper and ink and all of those kinds of things 390 00:23:07,670 --> 00:23:11,240 can be budgeted for as well. So it just depends on 391 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,600 what kinds of things you're asking for and then 392 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,090 results from prior support. If you have gotten 393 00:23:17,090 --> 00:23:19,970 funding from other sources, this is where you 394 00:23:19,970 --> 00:23:23,060 would put that and then supporting documents. So 395 00:23:23,090 --> 00:23:25,520 the supporting documents are generally different 396 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:31,190 than the actual proposal. Right. So the proposal 397 00:23:31,190 --> 00:23:34,610 proper is about six pages. And then you can have 398 00:23:34,610 --> 00:23:38,810 other pages, as it says here, supporting documents 399 00:23:38,810 --> 00:23:41,570 could be things like your survey instrument, 400 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,300 letters of commitment from your collaborators. So, 401 00:23:44,300 --> 00:23:46,760 for instance, whenever I was anagrams, I would 402 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,760 have to submit a letter of intent and commitments 403 00:23:50,030 --> 00:23:53,450 to say that, yes, I'm free to participate in this 404 00:23:53,450 --> 00:23:58,370 particular program. I have the hours available and 405 00:23:58,990 --> 00:24:01,970 you might have to have a letter of commitment from 406 00:24:01,970 --> 00:24:07,070 a faculty members, department chair or supervisor 407 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,960 and again, anything to purchase supplies. This is 408 00:24:11,030 --> 00:24:14,690 particularly important. The other thing that is 409 00:24:14,690 --> 00:24:17,030 really important is putting your team together. 410 00:24:17,570 --> 00:24:21,770 And this takes a lot of time. And it also has to 411 00:24:21,770 --> 00:24:22,850 do with. 412 00:24:25,150 --> 00:24:28,630 The grant itself, so, for instance, with the STEM 413 00:24:28,630 --> 00:24:32,380 grants, I needed to have someone who was an 414 00:24:32,380 --> 00:24:38,290 aerospace engineer, a computer or engineer, and 415 00:24:38,290 --> 00:24:46,310 also somebody that had to do with. Diversity and 416 00:24:46,430 --> 00:24:49,700 someone who might have something to do with 417 00:24:49,700 --> 00:24:52,370 undergraduates and high school students, because 418 00:24:52,370 --> 00:24:55,730 the idea was we were providing scholarships for 419 00:24:55,730 --> 00:24:59,300 undergraduates, so I had to have someone who were 420 00:24:59,330 --> 00:25:02,420 experts in those kinds of things. So when you're 421 00:25:02,420 --> 00:25:06,410 putting together your particular team, you want to 422 00:25:06,410 --> 00:25:11,240 think about who those pieces are and what they 423 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:15,440 bring to the table. Right. So, for instance, in 424 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:19,490 the STEM Grant, I had Rob Owen, who I asked to be 425 00:25:19,490 --> 00:25:22,910 on the team, and he had actually created all of 426 00:25:22,940 --> 00:25:27,650 those aerospace programs in the high schools back 427 00:25:27,650 --> 00:25:32,660 then. And so he had set up all of those. And that 428 00:25:32,660 --> 00:25:36,920 was very instrumental. I also had Professor Baikie 429 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,500 in there because he was my computer science guy 430 00:25:41,180 --> 00:25:45,170 and also Dr. Rogovin, who created a women in math 431 00:25:45,170 --> 00:25:50,330 day. So I was there is the diversity person and I 432 00:25:50,330 --> 00:25:54,350 was the director of diversity and inclusion back 433 00:25:54,350 --> 00:26:01,550 then. So my PI was Dr to Howe Nejad and he was 434 00:26:01,550 --> 00:26:06,080 selected by the the dean of the engineering 435 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,380 college at the time. I asked him to submit someone 436 00:26:09,740 --> 00:26:14,480 for this particular grant. So again, if you have 437 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:19,790 people on there who already have gotten grants or 438 00:26:19,790 --> 00:26:24,230 who have some expertise in what it is that you're 439 00:26:24,230 --> 00:26:27,350 doing, those are the people that you want to 440 00:26:27,350 --> 00:26:31,520 select. The other caveat is sometimes you won't be 441 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:36,680 able to afford people. So if you have a small 442 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:41,420 grant of, say, twenty five thousand dollars for 443 00:26:42,050 --> 00:26:44,870 academic year or something, but the person that 444 00:26:44,870 --> 00:26:48,320 you're trying to get has a salary of some 445 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,560 astronomical number, you won't be able to afford 446 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:55,120 that full professor, let's say. You might have to 447 00:26:55,120 --> 00:26:58,030 think about getting an assistant professor that 448 00:26:58,030 --> 00:27:01,600 might have some similar credentials that will fit 449 00:27:01,750 --> 00:27:03,880 a little bit better into your grounds and you can 450 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,760 afford them. Does that make sense to everyone? I 451 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:12,780 hope so. Sometimes it's about cost. So. All right. 452 00:27:12,790 --> 00:27:14,770 Anybody have any questions? I think there's some 453 00:27:14,770 --> 00:27:18,160 stuff in the chat, but I can't see that. So 454 00:27:18,550 --> 00:27:19,120 there's only. 455 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:27,250 No questions in the chat right now. All right, all 456 00:27:27,250 --> 00:27:30,280 right, so again, one of the things you want to 457 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:36,460 look for is the rubric and how that is shaking out. 458 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,220 And I just wanted to look at a couple of those 459 00:27:39,220 --> 00:27:43,600 things. The this particular night, Grant has a 460 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,940 rubric, know if we have time to look at them. But 461 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,410 basically the it covers things like originality. 462 00:27:50,830 --> 00:27:54,550 And again, what is so great about your proposal? 463 00:27:54,550 --> 00:27:57,820 How is it different than the other 10 or 20 464 00:27:57,820 --> 00:28:00,640 proposals that we're going to get? So does it 465 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,600 involve, for instance, a community aspect that 466 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,240 maybe other grants don't you know, maybe you're 467 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,810 going to involve K through 12 a lot of grants like 468 00:28:10,810 --> 00:28:15,130 to have? Younger students involved or community 469 00:28:15,130 --> 00:28:17,320 colleges or things like that, so if you have a 470 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,950 partnership, that's very helpful. So one of the 471 00:28:20,950 --> 00:28:25,480 grants that I was on actually was the Solar 472 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,810 Decathlon. So the Solar Decathlon was one hundred 473 00:28:28,810 --> 00:28:34,060 thousand dollar grants to build a totally self 474 00:28:34,540 --> 00:28:39,820 sufficient housing unit. And it was put on by the 475 00:28:39,820 --> 00:28:43,660 Department of Energy. So the Department of Energy 476 00:28:43,660 --> 00:28:45,070 wanted to have. 477 00:28:48,230 --> 00:28:52,610 Some collaboration between sort of community 478 00:28:52,610 --> 00:28:58,760 colleges and also universities, and so we thought 479 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,910 that that would make our proposal much better if 480 00:29:01,910 --> 00:29:06,230 we reached out to Daytona's state. And so Dr. 481 00:29:06,230 --> 00:29:10,040 Bauscher was the P.I. on that and she put together 482 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,550 that particular grant. She asked me to join 483 00:29:13,550 --> 00:29:17,180 because there's a communication team that had to 484 00:29:17,180 --> 00:29:20,510 be part of the Solar Decathlon. And the reason for 485 00:29:20,510 --> 00:29:23,750 that is that the Department of Energy does these 486 00:29:23,750 --> 00:29:26,720 contests and puts on these contests because they 487 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,380 want to have their message put out there, but they 488 00:29:30,380 --> 00:29:35,270 don't necessarily have the time or wherewithal to 489 00:29:35,270 --> 00:29:38,600 do it. And by putting on these contests, they can 490 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,750 get the word out. All right. And also, a lot of 491 00:29:41,750 --> 00:29:46,610 times we as a contest participants can appeal and 492 00:29:46,610 --> 00:29:53,180 lobby to constituents that they might want to have 493 00:29:53,390 --> 00:29:56,990 know, maybe endorse their products or whatever 494 00:29:56,990 --> 00:30:01,280 their ideas are when they, in fact, can't because 495 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:06,670 they're a government entity. So my students, I put 496 00:30:06,670 --> 00:30:11,230 together a communication team and it was it became 497 00:30:11,230 --> 00:30:14,770 part of my class, I teach a public relations class 498 00:30:14,770 --> 00:30:17,890 as well. And so it was part of the class, my 499 00:30:17,890 --> 00:30:22,180 students, who actually is now at Space Tango 500 00:30:25,060 --> 00:30:27,400 Danielle Resolvers. She was great. She put 501 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,520 together a logo. We did all kinds of marketing 502 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:35,020 materials, including brochures, a little webpage. 503 00:30:35,020 --> 00:30:37,960 We had social media presence and we did a lot of 504 00:30:38,110 --> 00:30:41,710 different fundraising as well. So originality and 505 00:30:41,710 --> 00:30:44,530 creativity, how does yours how is yours? Different 506 00:30:45,010 --> 00:30:50,650 feasibility can be things such as, OK, you think 507 00:30:50,650 --> 00:30:54,250 this project is going to take two years, but the 508 00:30:54,250 --> 00:30:57,610 funding is only for a year. So how feasible is it 509 00:30:57,610 --> 00:31:02,090 that you're going to finish this thing? Or maybe 510 00:31:02,090 --> 00:31:05,990 it's, again, going to cost too much and this 511 00:31:05,990 --> 00:31:09,200 particular grant is only going to give you say 512 00:31:09,230 --> 00:31:12,620 five thousand dollars of twenty five thousand, but 513 00:31:12,620 --> 00:31:14,450 you don't know where you're getting the rest and 514 00:31:14,450 --> 00:31:16,940 you haven't said it in your proposal, you're 515 00:31:16,940 --> 00:31:19,010 probably not going to get that five thousand 516 00:31:19,010 --> 00:31:23,580 either. And again, in terms of communication, how 517 00:31:23,580 --> 00:31:27,390 are you getting that message out to others about 518 00:31:27,390 --> 00:31:30,450 what you have done? So are you keeping up some 519 00:31:30,450 --> 00:31:33,810 social media presence? Are you submitting your 520 00:31:33,810 --> 00:31:37,530 research proposals to things like Discovery Day or 521 00:31:37,530 --> 00:31:41,670 conferences or journals? And then, of course, 522 00:31:41,670 --> 00:31:44,850 what's your methodology? Some of the methodology, 523 00:31:44,850 --> 00:31:49,680 again, is it you have your surveys been validated? 524 00:31:50,100 --> 00:31:53,580 If not, that's kind of a problem. The 525 00:31:53,580 --> 00:32:00,780 contributions. Again, what does that involve? What 526 00:32:00,780 --> 00:32:03,930 kind of contribution will this be in terms of 527 00:32:04,170 --> 00:32:07,470 unique? Will it serve hundreds of people? Will it 528 00:32:07,470 --> 00:32:11,490 serve only a couple? What's sort of the outreach 529 00:32:11,490 --> 00:32:14,460 and significance there, the qualifications of your 530 00:32:14,460 --> 00:32:18,210 team, how much you need this money, access to 531 00:32:18,210 --> 00:32:21,360 resources, and then again, the funding requests? 532 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,650 Anybody have any questions about looking at the 533 00:32:25,650 --> 00:32:29,280 rubric for sort of determining how you're going 534 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:30,880 about putting this thing together? 535 00:32:33,380 --> 00:32:33,660 It's. 536 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,510 OK, so we're going to take a closer look at some 537 00:32:39,510 --> 00:32:43,380 of them, and again, the executive summary 538 00:32:43,410 --> 00:32:47,130 sometimes called the abstract is really concise 539 00:32:47,130 --> 00:32:50,010 and importantly, it doesn't have technical 540 00:32:50,010 --> 00:32:53,460 language in it. It's a summary of the entire 541 00:32:53,460 --> 00:32:56,130 proposal or the entire document, the entire 542 00:32:56,130 --> 00:32:58,860 dissertation, the entire thesis, whatever it is. 543 00:32:59,610 --> 00:33:05,080 And so it's going to describe. The whole sort of 544 00:33:05,090 --> 00:33:08,140 Angelena, if you will, right, but only two hundred 545 00:33:08,140 --> 00:33:11,950 and fifty words, the abstract is so hard to write 546 00:33:11,950 --> 00:33:15,120 and I always encouraged my students to write it. 547 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,040 When you're finished, it's the first thing that 548 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,190 you do in terms of when you're after the cover 549 00:33:21,190 --> 00:33:24,520 page and all of that. But it's really the most 550 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,650 difficult thing to write because two hundred and 551 00:33:26,650 --> 00:33:30,310 fifty words or three hundred words, it's about a 552 00:33:30,310 --> 00:33:34,630 page, by the way, is is the most difficult to 553 00:33:34,630 --> 00:33:37,210 write because you're boiling down in some cases 554 00:33:37,210 --> 00:33:40,450 with a dissertation. Two hundred pages of stuff. 555 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,480 So how are you going to represent that and again, 556 00:33:45,110 --> 00:33:48,530 that's not going to present any new information 557 00:33:48,530 --> 00:33:52,400 that's going to present, again, the stuff that 558 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:56,090 you've done at the end. So all of it you're in it 559 00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:00,860 generally motivates people to read this thing and 560 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,650 determine whether they're going to be interested 561 00:34:03,650 --> 00:34:06,110 in perusing it further, whether it's for a 562 00:34:06,110 --> 00:34:12,060 dissertation or a thesis or a proposal. This is 563 00:34:12,060 --> 00:34:14,730 extremely important, I would say that about 30 564 00:34:14,730 --> 00:34:18,840 percent of your proposal might be spent in this 565 00:34:18,990 --> 00:34:21,570 literature review. And again, why is it so 566 00:34:21,570 --> 00:34:24,510 important? Well, if you're writing a dissertation, 567 00:34:24,510 --> 00:34:28,020 for instance, and someone has already actually 568 00:34:28,020 --> 00:34:31,380 done this experiments or written about this 569 00:34:31,380 --> 00:34:37,370 particular author, let's say. And you're proposing 570 00:34:37,370 --> 00:34:40,130 the same way to look at it. Well, now you've got 571 00:34:40,130 --> 00:34:43,130 to start all over because you can't do the same 572 00:34:43,130 --> 00:34:48,050 thing. So either you're going to have to try to 573 00:34:48,050 --> 00:34:50,060 look at something a little bit different and 574 00:34:50,060 --> 00:34:54,350 change something. It's a fairly exhaustive process. 575 00:34:55,420 --> 00:34:58,720 So you have to determine whether or not things 576 00:34:58,720 --> 00:35:03,190 have been done previously and how they were done 577 00:35:03,190 --> 00:35:07,330 or and how your project is going to be different. 578 00:35:07,900 --> 00:35:11,500 So right now, I'm working on a listening some 579 00:35:11,500 --> 00:35:15,610 listening research with my colleague, Dr. Sally 580 00:35:15,610 --> 00:35:19,210 Blumstein. So we're in the process of doing a 581 00:35:19,210 --> 00:35:22,630 literature review right now. So, again, you would 582 00:35:22,630 --> 00:35:27,760 have to go online into the library and see if 583 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,900 anybody has written about your particular item. If 584 00:35:31,900 --> 00:35:35,200 you're doing NSF rounds and things like that, you 585 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,440 also might want to peruse the grants that have 586 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:42,640 already been given out to see if maybe what you're 587 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,830 proposing has already been done before because 588 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,460 it's already been done before. It's not going to 589 00:35:48,460 --> 00:35:53,080 be funded unless it's a lot different than what 590 00:35:53,110 --> 00:35:55,840 they funded previously. So, again, what are the 591 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:59,590 benefits of this work? Who's it going to help? And 592 00:35:59,590 --> 00:36:03,490 that's very, very important, right? If it's going 593 00:36:03,490 --> 00:36:07,330 to help a lot of people, then your work is 594 00:36:07,330 --> 00:36:09,850 probably going to be funded. But if it's touching 595 00:36:09,850 --> 00:36:13,900 only, you know, 10 or 20 people, that's probably 596 00:36:13,900 --> 00:36:16,720 not going to be enough. So think about those kinds 597 00:36:16,720 --> 00:36:19,570 of things. And again, it's about 30 percent. This 598 00:36:19,570 --> 00:36:22,960 is when you're doing lots of your research. The 599 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,600 methodology and approach, of course, is totally up 600 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,660 to you. But you have to figure out whether you're 601 00:36:28,660 --> 00:36:31,960 doing quantitative or qualitative or some kind of 602 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:37,120 mixed methodology here and how much how many 603 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,270 participants you plan on getting your sample size 604 00:36:40,720 --> 00:36:44,470 of a small sample size. Maybe it's not going to be 605 00:36:44,470 --> 00:36:48,670 funded because you just haven't had enough people 606 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,820 take the survey to actually figure out if 607 00:36:51,820 --> 00:36:55,620 anything's valid. Right. You also want to think 608 00:36:55,620 --> 00:36:58,590 about data collection. What is your survey 609 00:36:58,590 --> 00:37:01,770 instrument look like isn't validated? And if I 610 00:37:01,770 --> 00:37:05,460 could just give a shout out to Dr. Joseph Keibler, 611 00:37:05,460 --> 00:37:08,640 if you're interested, he is the chief sort of 612 00:37:09,810 --> 00:37:14,330 survey validator that we have at the university. 613 00:37:14,340 --> 00:37:17,730 He teaches that is actually what he teaches and 614 00:37:17,740 --> 00:37:20,280 he's really great to talk to. I had him come in to 615 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,010 talk to my thesis students about validating their 616 00:37:23,010 --> 00:37:26,970 surveys. The other thing is data analysis. How 617 00:37:26,970 --> 00:37:29,430 long is this going to take? What are the steps? Is 618 00:37:29,430 --> 00:37:32,070 there a phase one, phase two or phase three? All 619 00:37:32,070 --> 00:37:34,230 of these kinds of things need to be put into the 620 00:37:34,240 --> 00:37:37,410 section. And of course, there might be ethical 621 00:37:37,410 --> 00:37:40,800 issues or permissions that you need to get ahead 622 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:41,250 of time. 623 00:37:43,610 --> 00:37:46,220 The next hour, timelines and by timelines, they 624 00:37:46,220 --> 00:37:49,070 should look something like this, the timeline is 625 00:37:49,070 --> 00:37:51,410 actually a thing where people are going to say, 626 00:37:51,710 --> 00:37:55,760 well, OK, here is when the money is going to be 627 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,730 dispersed. Let's say it's being dispersed July 1st. 628 00:37:58,730 --> 00:38:02,450 Right. There should be some sort of a timeline 629 00:38:02,450 --> 00:38:05,150 that ends up with the same sort of thing. So if 630 00:38:05,150 --> 00:38:08,180 you know that you're one of the deliverables is 631 00:38:08,180 --> 00:38:10,700 Discovery Day. Discovery Day should be in your 632 00:38:10,700 --> 00:38:15,410 timeline. Right. Or whatever. Whenever your 633 00:38:15,410 --> 00:38:19,010 experiments say the collection process happens in 634 00:38:19,010 --> 00:38:25,550 July and then you're going to analyze it in August, 635 00:38:25,910 --> 00:38:29,120 come out with your results and discussion and so 636 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:32,600 forth. So all of that needs to be plotted out and 637 00:38:32,630 --> 00:38:37,850 hopefully it takes you to the end of the the 638 00:38:37,850 --> 00:38:40,970 budget money. So the end of the fiscal year is 639 00:38:40,970 --> 00:38:45,380 generally June 30th or so. But some of these, like 640 00:38:45,380 --> 00:38:48,590 the Ignite grants, say that your money has to be 641 00:38:48,590 --> 00:38:51,800 spent by that march. So March twenty twenty four, 642 00:38:52,100 --> 00:38:54,380 that's well before the end of the fiscal year, 643 00:38:54,380 --> 00:38:57,830 which is June 30th. So if you thought that you 644 00:38:57,830 --> 00:39:00,410 were going to have some money after that point, 645 00:39:00,410 --> 00:39:03,650 you're not. So, for instance, if your timeline 646 00:39:03,650 --> 00:39:10,730 extends, you know, let's say into June, maybe this 647 00:39:10,730 --> 00:39:14,180 is not going to be deemed feasible, because now 648 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,030 some of the things that you have said you're going 649 00:39:17,030 --> 00:39:20,990 to do, extend past the distribution of money. It 650 00:39:20,990 --> 00:39:24,620 just depends on how that branches and again, 651 00:39:24,620 --> 00:39:27,860 sponsored programs can help you determine some of 652 00:39:27,860 --> 00:39:30,920 these things that are really great at talking to 653 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:36,980 you about. Well, you should probably maybe change 654 00:39:36,980 --> 00:39:39,410 that a little bit and say that you're going to do 655 00:39:39,410 --> 00:39:41,810 it earlier because you're going to run out of 656 00:39:41,810 --> 00:39:44,970 money or whatever happens to be the case. Right. 657 00:39:44,990 --> 00:39:48,170 And sometimes people's contracts and if you're 658 00:39:48,830 --> 00:39:51,140 dealing with a faculty member, they might be on a 659 00:39:51,140 --> 00:39:55,790 nine month contract and your project runs 10 or 12 660 00:39:55,790 --> 00:39:58,580 months. So then what happens at that point? That 661 00:39:58,580 --> 00:40:02,300 might be a little bit of a caveat to consider. 662 00:40:03,850 --> 00:40:07,300 Again, communication, what are the top journals, 663 00:40:07,300 --> 00:40:11,170 identify those beforehand and put them into your 664 00:40:11,170 --> 00:40:14,740 proposal. So if you plan on disseminating these 665 00:40:14,740 --> 00:40:18,400 into journals and top journals, for instance, I 666 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,040 wouldn't only rely on that. And I'll tell you why, 667 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,880 because journals take forever sometimes to publish. 668 00:40:24,340 --> 00:40:26,620 Right. So if you're looking at submitting 669 00:40:26,620 --> 00:40:29,350 something and you know, that journal is the top 670 00:40:29,350 --> 00:40:32,860 journal, but you also know that there probably are 671 00:40:32,860 --> 00:40:35,500 backed up and are going to take a couple of years 672 00:40:35,500 --> 00:40:42,160 to even review your submission, then that's 673 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,650 probably not the only thing you want to go by. So 674 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:46,930 you want to see if there's any poster 675 00:40:46,930 --> 00:40:49,960 presentations at conferences you can do. Again, 676 00:40:49,970 --> 00:40:52,630 social media, there's nothing wrong with community 677 00:40:52,630 --> 00:40:55,090 involvement. Maybe you're going to do a webinar 678 00:40:55,090 --> 00:41:00,250 like this and post it to scholarly commons, or 679 00:41:00,250 --> 00:41:02,110 maybe you're going to go out into the community 680 00:41:02,380 --> 00:41:07,330 and present something to could be senior citizens. 681 00:41:07,330 --> 00:41:10,450 It could be the K through 12. Maybe there's a 682 00:41:10,450 --> 00:41:12,700 little bit of a lecture series or something that 683 00:41:12,700 --> 00:41:16,780 you can go on. So a lot of these things are, again, 684 00:41:16,780 --> 00:41:20,350 up to you. But the more creative you can be, the 685 00:41:20,590 --> 00:41:24,010 more chance that you'll be funded, because, again, 686 00:41:24,010 --> 00:41:26,920 those entities want their name out just like 687 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:28,390 everybody else. So. 688 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:35,460 The last bits of your project have to do in this 689 00:41:35,460 --> 00:41:38,640 case with the Ignite grant, with adequacy of 690 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,970 resources, so if you say you're going to use a 691 00:41:41,970 --> 00:41:45,150 particular space on campus, you better have 692 00:41:45,150 --> 00:41:50,430 blocked that off with the person who owns those 693 00:41:50,430 --> 00:41:53,580 facilities. Right. So one of the things that we 694 00:41:53,580 --> 00:41:57,230 did with Jemma's camp was we used to use and now 695 00:41:57,270 --> 00:41:59,400 this is years ago, but we used to have these 696 00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:05,160 hexagonal buildings also called alphabet soup. And 697 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,700 I had to make sure that all of those little pods 698 00:42:09,150 --> 00:42:13,260 were not busy during the time that we were having 699 00:42:13,260 --> 00:42:16,380 the summer camp. Right. So people had to make sure 700 00:42:16,380 --> 00:42:18,540 that they weren't scheduling classes in there 701 00:42:18,780 --> 00:42:21,330 because I wanted to make sure that only those 702 00:42:21,330 --> 00:42:24,840 campers were in the building. And that was 703 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:28,710 generally for the security of those campers, which 704 00:42:28,710 --> 00:42:32,370 were about eight to 12 year olds. And so there 705 00:42:32,370 --> 00:42:36,000 were one hundred of them. And if you've ever had 706 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,300 one hundred students, little little students 707 00:42:39,300 --> 00:42:41,300 running around, you'll know that they'll get into 708 00:42:41,300 --> 00:42:44,400 a lots of mischief and you want to make sure that 709 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,830 they're not running amuck. So one of the things 710 00:42:46,830 --> 00:42:49,680 that we did was I had to have people sign in and 711 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:53,360 sign out to make sure that they were accounted for. 712 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:57,360 So the space, the equipment, are you using the 713 00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:01,410 wave lab? And if so, does the person who's running 714 00:43:01,410 --> 00:43:04,890 the wave lab know that because they might also 715 00:43:04,890 --> 00:43:07,980 have experiments that they're doing and running 716 00:43:08,370 --> 00:43:10,860 and so you'll run into some trouble. So, again, 717 00:43:10,860 --> 00:43:13,140 these are things that you want to do well ahead of 718 00:43:13,140 --> 00:43:16,590 time. Do you have access? So, for instance, with 719 00:43:16,830 --> 00:43:20,970 Eco Car, which I was also on. They have a garage, 720 00:43:21,630 --> 00:43:24,090 but there are certain people that have access to 721 00:43:24,090 --> 00:43:26,730 the garage. There are certain protocols. You can't 722 00:43:26,730 --> 00:43:29,130 go in there with open toed shoes, for instance, 723 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:33,210 those kinds of things. So do you have access to 724 00:43:33,210 --> 00:43:37,110 the labs, the wind tunnels or whatever it is that 725 00:43:37,110 --> 00:43:40,890 you're using? And again, if you need to purchase 726 00:43:40,890 --> 00:43:44,130 equipment, did somebody already sign off on that 727 00:43:44,130 --> 00:43:47,880 equipment? Because if not, then this will not be 728 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:53,230 approved. And then again, final approvals, did you 729 00:43:53,230 --> 00:43:57,190 secure the IRP permission, you can not attempt any 730 00:43:57,190 --> 00:44:00,040 sort of survey or experiment with human subjects 731 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,130 until you have final approval. You can't just say, 732 00:44:03,130 --> 00:44:05,260 oh, well, I think we're going to have it. So let's 733 00:44:05,260 --> 00:44:07,360 just run this survey because and the essence of 734 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:11,920 time, that is not a thing. You will get in huge 735 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,800 trouble if you try to do that. Another thing is 736 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,140 safety permissions. And a lot of people don't 737 00:44:17,140 --> 00:44:19,210 think of these things, but you might have 738 00:44:19,210 --> 00:44:22,330 materials that you have to dispose of in an 739 00:44:22,330 --> 00:44:25,420 environmentally friendly way. You cannot pour 740 00:44:25,420 --> 00:44:30,190 paint down the drain, right. You cannot pour toxic 741 00:44:30,190 --> 00:44:34,480 chemicals down the drain necessarily. If you have 742 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:38,890 excess chemicals, they have to be secured and you 743 00:44:38,890 --> 00:44:41,950 have to go through the safety arm of the college. 744 00:44:42,100 --> 00:44:44,980 The other thing is, are you flying something, 745 00:44:44,980 --> 00:44:49,720 though? A lot of our students are have little 746 00:44:49,720 --> 00:44:53,170 incubators and things on us and those things have 747 00:44:53,170 --> 00:44:55,930 to be cleared through the FAA if you're putting 748 00:44:55,930 --> 00:45:00,490 anything up into airspace. The FAA has to know 749 00:45:00,490 --> 00:45:06,330 about it. And again, with the facilities, so these 750 00:45:06,330 --> 00:45:09,750 are things that you have to clear with the office, 751 00:45:09,750 --> 00:45:13,950 the safety office and then also the RFP that 752 00:45:13,950 --> 00:45:17,790 you'll see there, but there's also a student group 753 00:45:17,790 --> 00:45:21,000 resume. This is Eco Car, and I put the solar 754 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,720 decathlon up there. But again, Toute, who is in 755 00:45:24,720 --> 00:45:27,960 this group and their achievements and why they're 756 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,620 so great, maybe they've won money before they won 757 00:45:31,620 --> 00:45:35,820 a contest, perhaps. Or maybe they work with 758 00:45:36,420 --> 00:45:39,540 Wallops and their Earth sense and they are 759 00:45:39,540 --> 00:45:42,270 shooting off rockets. And so all of that is really 760 00:45:42,270 --> 00:45:46,230 great information to put on there. And also, don't 761 00:45:46,230 --> 00:45:49,470 forget the individual achievements of your team 762 00:45:49,470 --> 00:45:51,810 members. So there might be a team member that has 763 00:45:52,170 --> 00:45:55,590 recently won an award, perhaps presented at 764 00:45:55,590 --> 00:45:58,260 Discovery Day or something like that. Those kinds 765 00:45:58,260 --> 00:46:00,240 of things need to be in that group resuming. 766 00:46:01,860 --> 00:46:04,890 Lastly, there's the references work. Now, what I 767 00:46:04,900 --> 00:46:08,040 like to use for my thesis students is called Ref 768 00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,250 Works. It's available through the library. There's 769 00:46:11,250 --> 00:46:13,950 a little tutorial here, but basically when you're 770 00:46:13,950 --> 00:46:17,730 researching something, you can just put the 771 00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:20,790 research that you find into rough works and you 772 00:46:20,790 --> 00:46:24,660 can ask it to create a bibliography for you. I'm 773 00:46:24,660 --> 00:46:29,340 also a fan of reference generators. Some of my 774 00:46:29,340 --> 00:46:31,500 colleagues don't agree, but I think it's a great 775 00:46:31,500 --> 00:46:34,380 little service if you're putting things in there 776 00:46:34,380 --> 00:46:37,830 for. And again, you just tell us if you want appx 777 00:46:37,830 --> 00:46:42,540 in which book or MLA and which reiteration of it. 778 00:46:43,020 --> 00:46:46,340 I think it does Chicago Emanuel style as well. 779 00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:52,910 And the budget very important, again, here's a 780 00:46:52,910 --> 00:46:56,630 little itemized budget. It doesn't have to be long, 781 00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,300 but it does have to account for the money. So if 782 00:46:59,300 --> 00:47:01,580 you're asking for twenty five thousand dollars or 783 00:47:01,580 --> 00:47:04,490 ten thousand dollars or five thousand dollars, the 784 00:47:04,490 --> 00:47:07,940 budget should include breakouts on how you're 785 00:47:07,940 --> 00:47:10,640 going to spend that money. So you're never going 786 00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,670 to ask just for five thousand dollars and give 787 00:47:13,670 --> 00:47:16,280 some very general things like, oh, well, it used 788 00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:18,680 it for party or whatever, we'll use it for 789 00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:22,070 supplies. Who's getting the money and how much are 790 00:47:22,070 --> 00:47:25,340 they getting? So these are some there might be 791 00:47:25,340 --> 00:47:28,220 direct or indirect expenses. And again, sponsored 792 00:47:28,220 --> 00:47:30,620 programs can help you with faculty costs and 793 00:47:30,620 --> 00:47:33,980 things like that. Site license's might be 794 00:47:33,980 --> 00:47:36,530 something that you're interested in. And again, 795 00:47:36,530 --> 00:47:40,520 read your RFP to find out if travel is something 796 00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,220 that you can budget. So, for instance, in the 797 00:47:43,230 --> 00:47:49,700 Ignite RFP, travel to conferences to tout your 798 00:47:49,700 --> 00:47:54,500 findings is not allowed. Right. So if that's how 799 00:47:54,500 --> 00:47:57,770 you planned to get to the conference, you can't 800 00:47:57,770 --> 00:48:02,840 use this money. Right? So again. Think about, you 801 00:48:02,870 --> 00:48:05,780 know, the travel money could be used for archival 802 00:48:05,780 --> 00:48:09,020 research to go to an archive, maybe to research 803 00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,150 and things like that, or maybe you're going to go 804 00:48:11,150 --> 00:48:14,660 to the Kennedy Space Center or the Johnson Space 805 00:48:14,660 --> 00:48:18,430 Center or somewhere like that to do more research. 806 00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,900 That's great. But that's not to promote the 807 00:48:20,900 --> 00:48:23,720 findings. That's to do the research. So this 808 00:48:23,720 --> 00:48:28,460 particular RFP in terms of travel is for that 809 00:48:28,460 --> 00:48:32,330 particular research. And again, there are supplies 810 00:48:32,570 --> 00:48:35,060 that a lot of people don't think about that need 811 00:48:35,060 --> 00:48:40,270 to be put into here as well. Final recommendations, 812 00:48:40,540 --> 00:48:44,140 leave yourself enough time. Now, this Ignite grant 813 00:48:44,140 --> 00:48:46,630 is due on March 3rd, so you should have gotten 814 00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:50,320 maybe something together at least a couple of 815 00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:54,400 weeks ago. And if not, try to get everything you 816 00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:59,650 need to do this week so that you can submit it, 817 00:48:59,650 --> 00:49:03,090 get the signatures. A lot of times signatures are 818 00:49:03,100 --> 00:49:05,320 the things that will hold up people because you 819 00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,170 don't know who's going on vacation, who is not 820 00:49:08,170 --> 00:49:10,360 going to be there at a certain time when you're 821 00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:12,520 finished. It doesn't mean that the person is going 822 00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,250 to be hanging around waiting to sign your, you 823 00:49:15,250 --> 00:49:19,570 know, your in your proposal. And you also want to 824 00:49:19,570 --> 00:49:25,120 polish this thing. I suggest using family. It is a 825 00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:28,900 great resource. It actually attaches to your 826 00:49:28,900 --> 00:49:32,470 Chrome browser. So when you're typing anything, it 827 00:49:32,470 --> 00:49:34,570 will say, oh, did you need that kind of a thing? 828 00:49:34,570 --> 00:49:36,820 It'll turn red and all of that. And I tell my 829 00:49:36,820 --> 00:49:40,780 students to use that. If you want to subscribe to 830 00:49:40,780 --> 00:49:44,500 it, there's a there's a free service and then 831 00:49:44,500 --> 00:49:46,870 there's a subscription that's that'll actually 832 00:49:46,870 --> 00:49:50,530 catch things like plagiarism. I actually purchased 833 00:49:50,530 --> 00:49:53,650 that for my kids that are in college. So I said 834 00:49:53,650 --> 00:49:56,240 it's always a good thing to have some, you know, 835 00:49:56,460 --> 00:50:00,580 another set of eyes on this thing. All right. So 836 00:50:01,540 --> 00:50:04,750 let's see. We have we're almost done here. I leave 837 00:50:04,750 --> 00:50:07,900 you with some questions. I put this together for 838 00:50:07,900 --> 00:50:12,940 you guys to have some links, though. There is some 839 00:50:12,940 --> 00:50:15,340 writing research proposals from the Hunt Library. 840 00:50:15,340 --> 00:50:18,520 They have lots of databases and books that you can 841 00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:22,150 look at and also articles. There's the Office of 842 00:50:22,150 --> 00:50:25,840 Sponsored Programs to tell you what you need to do, 843 00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:30,370 pre proposal and also during and then 844 00:50:30,370 --> 00:50:33,370 institutional research there. Is there a link for 845 00:50:33,370 --> 00:50:36,460 the training and that sort of thing? And there's 846 00:50:36,460 --> 00:50:40,690 Dr. Max Office and the Center for Communication 847 00:50:40,690 --> 00:50:44,650 and Digital Studio is sort of a new configuration 848 00:50:45,100 --> 00:50:48,250 of our tutoring center, but they do a lot with 849 00:50:49,510 --> 00:50:53,380 research presentation posters and can certainly 850 00:50:53,380 --> 00:50:56,920 help you with putting together a research proposal 851 00:50:57,610 --> 00:51:00,400 as well. So most of those students, I would say, 852 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,850 have already taken things like technical writing 853 00:51:03,850 --> 00:51:08,170 and and perhaps produced a thesis or so. So I also 854 00:51:08,170 --> 00:51:10,240 wanted to give a little shout out to my colleague, 855 00:51:10,240 --> 00:51:13,840 Dr. Sally Holmstrom, who has donated a couple of 856 00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:17,950 slides to this. And then if you need to reach me, 857 00:51:18,010 --> 00:51:22,290 I do have a little. Slide there with my 858 00:51:22,290 --> 00:51:24,690 information, so if something occurs to you and you 859 00:51:24,690 --> 00:51:28,140 think, oh, I wish I would have asked that, you can 860 00:51:28,140 --> 00:51:30,780 ask me, but do any of you have any questions in 861 00:51:30,780 --> 00:51:34,980 the last ten minutes that I could maybe field for 862 00:51:34,980 --> 00:51:37,340 you? I hope it was helpful. 863 00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:45,940 Great job. Thank you. Well, thank you. Some of 864 00:51:45,970 --> 00:51:47,800 these things I wish I would have known ahead of 865 00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:51,760 time, you know, because some of them are so 866 00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:55,360 specific with the RFID, some some of them even 867 00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:58,420 want you to use a particular font like Times Ruman 868 00:51:58,420 --> 00:52:01,060 or something. And it has to be 12 points and it 869 00:52:01,060 --> 00:52:05,170 must be a particular mergence around the page or 870 00:52:05,170 --> 00:52:07,210 that sort of thing. So a lot of these things, 871 00:52:07,630 --> 00:52:10,960 unfortunately, some people will submit things and 872 00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:14,560 then it hasn't adhered to the rules and it'll just 873 00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:17,470 get kicked back. And I know, you know, I've spent 874 00:52:17,470 --> 00:52:21,070 a lot of time putting proposals together. And one 875 00:52:21,070 --> 00:52:24,730 of the one of the really the things that I was 876 00:52:24,730 --> 00:52:27,580 really sad about was we put together an advance 877 00:52:27,580 --> 00:52:31,690 grant proposal for two point three million dollars. 878 00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:36,340 And unfortunately, at the time we submitted it, we 879 00:52:36,340 --> 00:52:39,610 had an interim president and interim chancellor. I 880 00:52:39,610 --> 00:52:43,210 believe one of the deans was interim and so forth. 881 00:52:43,210 --> 00:52:46,000 And they said, great proposal seems very 882 00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,370 interesting, but you have too many interim people. 883 00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,580 And so we can't give you the money because we 884 00:52:51,580 --> 00:52:55,120 don't know if whoever's coming in would actually 885 00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:58,330 sign off on this. And we're like, oh, no. So 886 00:52:58,340 --> 00:53:00,880 sometimes it doesn't have anything to do with you. 887 00:53:01,260 --> 00:53:04,900 You know, it has to do maybe with the institution 888 00:53:04,900 --> 00:53:09,940 that you're at or the time table or something like 889 00:53:09,940 --> 00:53:13,680 that. So a lot of these things are trial and error. 890 00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:17,710 And the thing that I would just reiterate is if at 891 00:53:17,710 --> 00:53:21,430 first you don't succeed, try try again. So a lot 892 00:53:21,430 --> 00:53:25,630 of the the gems from the Space Grant Consortium, 893 00:53:25,930 --> 00:53:29,110 Space Coast Grant Consortium, I submitted twice 894 00:53:29,110 --> 00:53:32,940 and the second time was a charm, so. The very 895 00:53:32,940 --> 00:53:36,540 specific question of how long the city training 896 00:53:36,540 --> 00:53:39,120 hold, how often do we have to wrap our city 897 00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:43,460 training? I think it's a couple of years. It might 898 00:53:43,470 --> 00:53:46,470 be three years, I think, because I had to refresh 899 00:53:46,470 --> 00:53:51,760 mine, so. I'm getting close. Yeah, and the other 900 00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:54,730 thing is you want to make sure that if if your 901 00:53:54,740 --> 00:53:58,450 grand, let's say, extends into the year, you want 902 00:53:58,450 --> 00:54:01,210 to make sure that you're already up to date before 903 00:54:01,210 --> 00:54:05,200 it expires. So call and Joe, thanks. I'm going to 904 00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,780 jump to my next meeting, but I'm glad I got to sit. 905 00:54:07,780 --> 00:54:13,150 And thank you, guys. Bayridge, anybody have any 906 00:54:13,150 --> 00:54:15,760 questions, I'm going to stop sharing my little 907 00:54:15,790 --> 00:54:19,470 slide there and do any of you have any questions? 908 00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:23,510 Oh, thanks, Britney. 909 00:54:28,670 --> 00:54:32,120 Again, you know, this is not the exhaustive thing, 910 00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,580 it's only an hour, and I wish I had more time to 911 00:54:34,580 --> 00:54:37,760 spend on each little caveat because some of these 912 00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,970 can be a little webinar in and of themselves. And 913 00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:44,720 I hope that maybe Dr. Keibler will do something on 914 00:54:44,720 --> 00:54:47,990 validating surveys because that's a real can of 915 00:54:47,990 --> 00:54:51,290 worms on occasion and quite involved. And I think 916 00:54:51,290 --> 00:54:53,840 that would be a great seminar coming up if you're 917 00:54:54,380 --> 00:54:57,070 if the library's interested in doing that. Yeah, 918 00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:59,480 definitely. We're always looking for partners. So 919 00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:03,620 we do have one question in the chat and is how can 920 00:55:03,620 --> 00:55:07,120 you encourage professors to work with you? Flash 921 00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:12,350 faster. Faster. Oh, I don't know about that 922 00:55:12,860 --> 00:55:16,340 usually. Again, you want to choose a professor 923 00:55:16,340 --> 00:55:19,730 that has some expertise and whatever it is you're 924 00:55:19,730 --> 00:55:22,970 doing, because, you know, we oftentimes will work 925 00:55:22,970 --> 00:55:28,450 with students if the passion is ours, too. So I 926 00:55:28,490 --> 00:55:32,150 love to work on eco car in the Solar Decathlon, 927 00:55:32,630 --> 00:55:35,990 which were sort of outside, if you will, of my 928 00:55:35,990 --> 00:55:38,540 auspices in a way, because they were in the 929 00:55:38,540 --> 00:55:42,350 College of Engineering, but they had little 930 00:55:42,350 --> 00:55:44,810 caveats for communication. And I thought this is a 931 00:55:44,810 --> 00:55:48,110 great way of showcasing our communication students 932 00:55:48,470 --> 00:55:53,600 and involving my class. So when Dr. Boutcher had 933 00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:56,660 asked me to join them and Dr. Courrier asked me to 934 00:55:56,660 --> 00:55:59,750 join him in the eco car, I was jumping on the 935 00:55:59,750 --> 00:56:03,500 chance to do that. So if you have a professor who 936 00:56:03,500 --> 00:56:06,230 has a passion for the same thing that you do, 937 00:56:07,250 --> 00:56:11,650 that's where I would probably go first. I hope 938 00:56:11,650 --> 00:56:12,820 that answered your question. 939 00:56:15,540 --> 00:56:19,740 Anybody else have any questions or thoughts about 940 00:56:19,740 --> 00:56:22,410 where they would submit, again, sponsored programs, 941 00:56:22,410 --> 00:56:25,020 has an entire newsletter that comes out every 942 00:56:25,020 --> 00:56:29,700 month that talks about the kinds of grants 943 00:56:29,700 --> 00:56:33,930 available, and most of them are STEM grants, but 944 00:56:33,930 --> 00:56:37,140 some of them can be STIEHM grants. So there could 945 00:56:37,140 --> 00:56:43,470 be an element of humanities in them. The Endowment 946 00:56:43,470 --> 00:56:46,530 for the Humanities is another resource. And so 947 00:56:46,530 --> 00:56:49,410 there's a lot of clearing houses that you can kind 948 00:56:49,410 --> 00:56:52,750 of search for in terms of grants as well. If you 949 00:56:52,770 --> 00:56:55,770 are familiar with the something called 950 00:56:55,770 --> 00:57:00,390 subliminable, there's a way of searching for 951 00:57:00,390 --> 00:57:05,460 grants in that as well. They're more kind of 952 00:57:05,460 --> 00:57:08,850 humanities kind of based. So the sponsored 953 00:57:08,850 --> 00:57:11,640 programs will definitely take care of you in terms 954 00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:14,730 of All Itzstein grants. But if you're looking for 955 00:57:14,730 --> 00:57:17,100 something in the realm of humanities, I would 956 00:57:17,100 --> 00:57:20,400 strongly suggest looking at submittals because 957 00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:23,430 they keep track of grants and the humanities. 958 00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:30,420 Anybody else have any questions or challenges that 959 00:57:30,420 --> 00:57:33,240 they've maybe encountered that they could share 960 00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:37,860 with the group? I know that Jill has done a 961 00:57:37,860 --> 00:57:41,250 million dissertations, so. 962 00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:50,340 Well, I think that's it for everyone, and I don't 963 00:57:50,340 --> 00:57:54,030 see any more questions in the chat, but I just 964 00:57:54,030 --> 00:57:57,000 want to say that was a great presentation. I 965 00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,940 learned a lot myself. I'm sure everyone here did 966 00:57:59,940 --> 00:58:03,960 as well. And thank you so much, Dr. Joe, for doing 967 00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:08,130 this. I know everyone really appreciates it. And 968 00:58:08,670 --> 00:58:14,490 we are going to this is recorded. We are going to 969 00:58:14,490 --> 00:58:17,190 add closed captioning to this recording and then 970 00:58:17,190 --> 00:58:19,320 we will be emailing it out to everyone who 971 00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:23,400 registered. And we will also see it in scholarly 972 00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:27,030 commons. And with the PowerPoint, you have all the 973 00:58:27,030 --> 00:58:28,320 links and everything.